Eyes and Mouth problem

[official-neosoft]

I've practiced losing my pillow shading. That worked out pretty well, but now I've got a bigger problem: I can't get good eyes and a mouth on this piece!
Every type of eyes I try are scary looking on her, and the mouths don't work out either..

Help?

[Pizza Tom]

I don't think I can help out with your eye/mouth problems, but I can say that the shirt is a bit off. Instead of going into the cleavage, it should be stretching across it. Also some of the muscles are a bit out of proportion, particularly the right forearm (our right).

[EvilEye]

I wouldn't try to get too detailed at that size.

Here's an edit:



Hair doesn't quite fit the face in my edit.

Not sure why you gave her such a zombie-like pose. How many girls do you know that walk around like that?

If you post one of your attempts at some eyes and a mouth I could give better advice.

[ceddo]

I must say, she has quite a package for a girl.

[Ryumaru]

You're not exactly pillow shading, but the shading still needs work:

I didn't make her top nakey just for the fun of it( well, it wasn't the ONLY reason) I did it so that you could see the form underneath the clothes that still have to be dealt with even with the presence of cloth and folds. When shading, always have a light source in mind, I always put a little marker with the light direction( in this case top ) and go from there. Evil eye's face edit is very good, do use it for inspiration.
I took the time to edit this because I thought it had potential. Good job and I hope this helps :]
Also i dealt with some proportional issues, and I probably made some more as well. But note the arms, the thicknesses are odd and mismatched and the legs were awkwardly posed.

[tehwexxl0rz]

HIPS!

Also, why does the shirt come to a point between the breasts?

[EvilEye]

Well, I was bored as hell, so I decided to edit Ryumaru's edit, which was a good edit, but had some anatomy issues ( looked like a man's body ). Hopefully I cleared this up a bit.



Hope we didn't scare neosoft away.

[official-neosoft]

Nice edits you guys, I like those eyes, they look both friendly yet dangerous. The anatomy ( male/female problems ) is the reason I made a girl, I used to practice on males, but then I decided to do a girl for fun. Also making breasts gives an extra practice on shading.

You didn't scare me away. I live in the Netherlands, I sleep when u are awake 

What do you guys mean with "package"? Muscles? Or her personal space? 

[Atnas]

I believe ceddo meant that the shading implied she had a penis. c:

Ryumaru and EvilEye made excellent points, I'm looking forward to seeing where you take this! Just be sure you remember to consult reference, it can help you a lot because you aren't inventing shapes when you use it.

[Ryumaru]

EvilEye: thanks for the edit of my edit I was definitely having a hard time with those hips and you did a great job with them. official-neosoft, you have some great critique, so put it to use!