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Offline ndchristie

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Little Dwarf

on: December 16, 2008, 05:25:55 am
Just a little practice,\\





embarrassing 350 tris and the texels on the legs are too small/many...empty spot on the map is for arms (this guy is going to be light infantry - harquebusier)
« Last Edit: December 16, 2008, 12:21:26 pm by ndchristie »
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Re: Little Dwarf

Reply #1 on: December 16, 2008, 11:40:28 am
Not bad eh =) Uv's on the edge of the helmet are a bit odd, being the border falling off. Care to post any wireframe?

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Re: Little Dwarf

Reply #2 on: December 16, 2008, 12:29:26 pm
You have me sold if you made a 2.5d platformer or 3d platformer with 2d gameplay out of this :)

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Re: Little Dwarf

Reply #3 on: December 16, 2008, 12:51:05 pm
Why embarrased by the poly-count? It's rig-able like this :O

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Re: Little Dwarf

Reply #4 on: December 16, 2008, 05:57:19 pm
You have me sold if you made a 2.5d platformer or 3d platformer with 2d gameplay out of this :)

Haha, if wishes were horses than beggars would ride; if artists could program we'd do so with pride...

The idea is actually for a strategy game not unlike fire emblem/advance wars/what have you in which the player competed for control of branches and trunk parts of the Yggdrasil as:
The Silf (elves) - they climb about like monkeys/ninjas and are built on speed and striking first.
The Fae (sprites and fairies) - they flit around using mostly assisting or impeding spells and rely on....well, not getting struck.
The Gnomes (think dwarfs but more woodsy) - with the exception of their builder units, they cannot climb, and rely on building structures to advance.  Guns and big axes are where they are at.
The Cull (Mushroom and Lichen-people) - they literally grow on the tree, so while they have a great range of movement in deploying, they are hard to reposition.  They are though the only race to just not care about gravity.
The Blight (Wicked spirits) - a group that is completely balanced in all of the above and the obvious "nemesis" faction (think chaos from warhammer).

The reason for the structures/gravity bit and the reason this game will never be made is that it's meant to be quite literally grid-combat over a branch, and use all the sides of that branch (including the bottom).

Perhaps one day a magical, experienced and not-busy 3d programmer will sweep me off my feet and make this game, but until then it's just low-res practice for when I feel untalented or am tired of thinking about blobs of ferrets (which you are not allowed to know about yet).
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Re: Little Dwarf

Reply #5 on: December 16, 2008, 09:04:56 pm
the face wants more pixels

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Re: Little Dwarf

Reply #6 on: December 16, 2008, 10:29:11 pm
the face wants more pixels

Hmm.....I tend to feel that extra-sizing the face of a model is the worst sin since the arbitrary blue ambient...but now that you mention it I think i've gone in the opposite direction here and actually made the face pixel-y-er.  I think I can increase the detail by pushing the helmet edges together and bringing the hand up a few marks (it doesn't use the whole space that it's shown to take). (goes off to try)
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Re: Little Dwarf

Reply #7 on: December 26, 2008, 01:28:54 pm
Hmm.....I tend to feel that extra-sizing the face of a model is the worst sin since the arbitrary blue ambient...

I agree - though I don't mind the blue ambient. The artist is supposed to be conveying a holistic effect - that the art is all made by the same primary atom. We're pixel artists, aren't we? We all know how mixing resolutions hurts the art and although this is inevitable to a degree in 3d it seems because of applying perspective and skew on an otherwise flat pixel map, to actually deliberately go in and make one surface much higher res than the rest just screams to me "bad priorities". Yes, I know everybody does it.

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Re: Little Dwarf

Reply #8 on: December 26, 2008, 05:15:32 pm
Don't worry about that face, I say! He looks like a grumpy dwarf, and you conveyed that within the space of impressively few pixels! I dig, this piece, and I mean especially the face, really combines the appeal of low-res-pixel and low-poly art for me! I dig it, except for the legs/feet, which are a bit .. pointy and angular. From the front, that is, the sillhouette from the side looks solid!
I'm just more or less hoping to see more in this style actually, with the same purplish shadows thing that you've got going here. It's giving me both final fantasy and warhammer vibes.

I dig this lots! Now make more! !yus!
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Re: Little Dwarf

Reply #9 on: December 26, 2008, 06:07:45 pm
In game art you tend to prioritize certain areas from the amount of screen time it gets, take a first person weapon for instance the amount of polygons closest to the camera can be twice that of the area of the gun facing away, same holds true to the texture map, another area that works like this is the face of characters. Since you look at the face first and foremost its essential that it looks better than the rest of the model. But with that all said i think that uneven texture resolution becomes less and less important the lower the model is polygon and texture size wise, so in this instance i think its perfectly acceptable the way it is and i think you should'nt give the face any extra resolution.

There's alot to think about when doing this sort of thing though, like the games camera angle, cut scenes, style etc.
Sometimes artist will give the head an unique texture map so say that you're using a 128 for the character the head will have its own 64 texture.

But this is all up to taste and what the character is going to be utilized for.

It looks really good btw, getting some LofZ Link to the past vibes!