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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #330 on: December 07, 2012, 06:34:05 pm
I also want to add that you should be drawing with bigger paper. That sketchbook is tiny for the the type of practicing you want to do, Dennis. For the stuff I posted earlier, they were done in a 9"x12" sketchbook (multiple sketches on each pag). If you don't already have one, I would recommend getting one ;D
(Mine is a strathmore, 400 series btw)

That sketchbook that you have is great for when you have an idea that you want to sketch down before you forget it or something catches your eyes when walking around town and you want to draw it. For the work that you want to do at the moment, working on a letter sized (8.5"x11") or bigger paper would be best.

Also, for gesture resources, you can try out these:
posemaniacs
Figure & Gesture Drawing

I like to use posemaniacs more, but the second one also has a class room setting option which is nice (starting from quick gestures, to longer drawings).
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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #331 on: December 08, 2012, 07:31:44 pm
@Joe: I just need more practice, that's all. Drawing only from life after the methods presented in Betty Edwards' book however is not sufficient practice because that only trains, as you know, ones' own perception and ability to see whatever is there but only as flat 2D shapes, as the contours which are formed as a projection of the real world volumes onto a flat surface. The result appears 3D if the perception and translation to pencil strokes was accurate but it does not mean the artist understands the volumes or that he/she could render them accurately from a different perspective without the help of a different reference photo.

I am aware of the fact that it isn't necessary to have any constructional knowledge to arrive at good life drawing skills (given many hours of practice of course) if you just draw what you see and keep making sure you really see it right. But that is not the main focus here.

The main focus/goal is on arriving at an understanding of that which is there as 3D volumes of width, height and depth and to be able to quickly render those from any angle from imagination, even angles which are completely different from the referenced real world object and angles from which an object hasn't even been seen before by extrapolating from what is already known and by imagining how it might appear from that unknown angle.

Now, if, and I stress IF I already were an expert at that, at spotting and correctly placing/feeling the volumes as they extend into the space in all directions, there would not be much difference in either drawing what is seen as a flat 2D image or drawing what is seen as 3D volumes first and then rendering the contours, lights, shadows and halftones based on those volumes.

The latter would have the advantage (over a mere 2D copy) of enabling the artist to render the referenced real life object(e.g. a photo) with a different light source or from an entirely different angle.

@wishie: Posemaniacs is great (worked from that in 2009 a bit (as seen on some older page of this thread)) and I should also get back to working from that again. I'll also check out the other site you linked to which seems interesting as well (and it features real naked people too!).

Working at bigger size is also a good idea (although in theory it doesn't make a difference since an accurately constructed or copied image should feel right at any size).


Now here are the results of todays practice.

First is a drawn comment on "your images are rife with symbolism":


Second, some 30sec posemaniacs studies:


Third some quick doodles trying to imagine how that same old pose would look from different angles (see... if I already had the skill I'm training for, these would look right instead of awkward :P ):


And fourth, oldschool flat drawing practice from reference photo without any construction practice involved (failed to capture her likeness again, I blame a lack of practice ^^):

process video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u0U2hq13tw

result:


And finally another deskshot (with a new solution for fixing the camera in a place where it doesn't get in the way):

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #332 on: December 09, 2012, 07:08:08 am
one thing thats making it look awkward is that youre outlining the teeth too darkly.  Here I sampled the color between the teeth and put it on her cheeck and nose.  Its only about as dark as the shadow  on her nose.

the teeth and mouth also arent really conforming to the angle the head is tilting, nor is the nose actually.  Remember the mouth eyes and nose are all going to be at the same angle.

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #333 on: December 11, 2012, 08:48:54 am
Yes, the mouth is the one part which is more off than everything else. I wonder if that's due to the paper being slightly rotated without me noticing while I was working on it. Hm, but even with rotated paper it should have been possible to get the angle right by comparing against other angles and lines which were already drawn at that point.

Haven't drawn much the past two days (not feeling too well, headaches, arm and shoulder pain... blah excuses!).

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #334 on: December 11, 2012, 10:03:46 pm
roughly eyeballed from random posemaniacs.com poses:


edit, well seems like imageshack considered it to be pornographic  :lol:
uploaded again to private webspace:
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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #335 on: December 13, 2012, 11:18:31 pm
With only a few minutes each day, little to no progress is being made: (refs: first, second)

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #336 on: December 15, 2012, 02:59:39 pm
20% constructed, 80% invented, 100% distorted  :blind:

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #337 on: December 15, 2012, 05:16:33 pm
That one looks nice, I like the green color. What are you using to draw your lines?

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #338 on: December 15, 2012, 06:31:30 pm
That one looks nice, I like the green color. What are you using to draw your lines?
Thanks. For the lines I'm using blacklead pencils from Faber-Castell. They come in various levels of soft/hardness. The green is from some cheap colored pencil by an unheard of brand called Fantasia Colors.

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #339 on: December 17, 2012, 10:03:50 pm
Tried the class mode of that page wishie linked to earlier (looks like the time limit in each is giving me a hard time trying to finish anything):
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