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3 cheers for animal cruelty ***FINISHED***

on: April 28, 2008, 06:46:42 pm
Yeah, the joke's been made before, but still...

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http://h1.ripway.com/tremulant/koopacrush.png
http://h1.ripway.com/tremulant/koopacrush2.png
http://h1.ripway.com/tremulant/koopacrush5.png

I'm partly happy with it, partly less so, but I've taken it as far as I can alone so crits will be highly appreciated.  :)
« Last Edit: April 30, 2008, 07:31:05 pm by Tremulant »

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty

Reply #1 on: April 28, 2008, 06:59:21 pm
Wow haha. Very fresh colors, which is something i always see in your stuff Trem. I think the bricks on the background distract too much at 1x - it strains my eyes to try to distinguish what they're supposed to be. No crits apart from that. Ace.

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty

Reply #2 on: April 28, 2008, 07:05:02 pm
i feel like the koopa's eye (and thus head) are a bit too large, but mario has a lovely junior/senior feel to him!  on second look he seems to have no legs whatsoever - a bit of knee might go a long ways there.  Fun stuff!

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty

Reply #3 on: April 28, 2008, 10:19:48 pm
Haha brilliant!

When i get used to it, it isn't so much of an issue, but the lack of canvas above mario's head is sortof strange at first, imo. But yes, fun and colourful! And gory!

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty

Reply #4 on: April 28, 2008, 11:58:33 pm
Updated.

Lar: You're a genius. The lack of centralization or focus or something was bugging me, though I didn't realize it. It still needs work, but I'm much happier with it now, overall.

Adam: I tried to improve his legs, and I think it worked for the most part, but they're still not entirely doing it for me. I keep getting closer, though, so I'll work on it. The koopa's proportions were intentional, so I left them as the are. If others find it distracting as well, though... I'm open to opinion.  ;)

ceddo: I left the bricks for now, though I agree with you. Its just that without them, the background's a bit plain, and I'd like to avoid adding colours as much as possible. Again, I'm open to opinions regarding how to fix this...

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty ***UPDATED: 04/28/08***

Reply #5 on: April 29, 2008, 01:22:35 am
Nice!

The only crit I would have is mario's face doesn't really look like mario.

The Eyes need to look a little bigger and pupils definetely too small. Nose could probably be a bit bigger also.

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty ***UPDATED: 04/28/08***

Reply #6 on: April 29, 2008, 11:39:38 am
It still feels cramped to me - maybe make the canvas bigger still.

Did an edit for your consideration: Red blood and changed a blue to green.


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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty ***UPDATED: 04/28/08***

Reply #7 on: April 29, 2008, 02:45:32 pm

Small edits on the hat, made the arms one pixel thicker, tiny detail to the gloves.
I don't remember the bricks being see through, so I gave it an outline.
Also you had blue AA under the grass, why not just use the red?

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty ***UPDATED: 04/28/08***

Reply #8 on: April 29, 2008, 04:56:19 pm
I think toning down the saturation of the sky would really help with readability.

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty ***UPDATED: 04/28/08***

Reply #9 on: April 29, 2008, 05:21:39 pm
You should add those little combo points that fly up when you jump on enemies so we can see how many times he's stomped on that poor thing :p
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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty ***UPDATED: 04/28/08***

Reply #10 on: April 29, 2008, 05:47:02 pm
Amazing! I think there is a bit too much space between his eyes, other than that it's great!

I used to have a book with Nintendo characters... Here's a technique I used to draw Mario's head:

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty ***UPDATED: 04/29/08***

Reply #11 on: April 29, 2008, 07:27:46 pm
Update! Yay!

EvilEye: Done ('cept for the nose).  :y:

Sharprm: I left the colours essentially as they were. I feel the less saturated, semi-pastel palette is more fun or innocent or something, which I'm trying to use to create a contrast with the violence. I agree with you about the previous canvas, though, so I made it even taller in the update.

Souly: Thanks for pointing that stuff out. Not only were you right, but editing the stuff you mentioned led me to a whole bunch of other small things that needed fixing. Also, I don't know what was up with the AA, or how I missed that, but I changed colours just for you.  :-*

Faceless: Done, but possibly not enough.

Ben: No combo points, but added a kill-score, for better or worse (it made me smile, so I kept it). :P

Nova: The eyes were originally intentionally small (I was trying to break from the classic mario face), but as I usually do, I made them too small. I think they're fixed.

Thanks guys!

I've started to worry a bit now that I've overdone the AA to the point of blurriness. It may just be my poor eyesight, but opinions are welcome just the same.

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty ***UPDATED: 04/29/08***

Reply #12 on: April 29, 2008, 09:43:44 pm
 The eyes still don't quite look right.

 Here is my edit:

 

 Of course he is looking ahead and not down now, but IMO it looks more like Mario.

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty ***UPDATED (again): 04/29/08***

Reply #13 on: April 29, 2008, 09:59:32 pm
I changed the eyes again, slightly. Yours do look more 'Mario', but I want to keep him looking downwards so this is probably as close as I'll get, barring an awesome edit that keeps both intact (hinthintnudgenudge everybody... hinthintnudgenudge indeed).

Thanks to everyone for all the love. Keep it coming, I'm greedy.

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty ***UPDATED (again): 04/29/08***

Reply #14 on: April 30, 2008, 09:50:26 am
Now i see the update i'm really glad you changed the koopa's eye. It all looks very crisp and clean, a very fun little piece. I aint got no crits.  ::)

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Re: 3 cheers for animal cruelty ***UPDATED (again): 04/29/08***

Reply #15 on: April 30, 2008, 07:30:47 pm
I made a few more minor changes and I'm calling it done. The completed version's in my PJ gallery, if anyone's interested. Thanks for all the help, guys.  :-*