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Re: pixeljoint weekly challenge

Reply #10 on: November 07, 2007, 12:32:39 pm


slight edit, haven't gotten to all the comments yet

traded in the white for a brown, it helps a litte i think (although i need to play with the pixels to make the leaves pop more now)

edit - meh, i tihnk ill need to change the whole palette if i adjust that, the pants are just too much their own now...
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Re: pixeljoint weekly challenge

Reply #11 on: November 07, 2007, 02:51:37 pm

In my limited opinion, I think there are both flaws and strengths in both Adarias and Sharp's pieces (am only talking about Sharps 10 colour edit here). When Adarias first posted, it took a little bit to "see" what was going on, and while the palette does justice to the greater concept of pixel art (as I interpret it from Helm's post), the "burn" Helm pointed out does make it hard to look at.

Sharp, on the other hand, has come at it from a more obvious, literal interpretation. Yes, the greens are very green. But there's also no mistaking what's going on. The nail is a nice touch and again more instantly "readable", although Adarias' sneakers, lock (it is a lock, yes?) and indeed overall look is far more authentic for the movie. Of course, the palette pops more on Sharp's piece, making it stand out with its saturation, though I don't like the highlights on the pants, or the spread hand and bare feet.

It's interesting, every day in my work we have to contend with what is innovative and clever and artistic, versus what the general public will understand and relate to (which therefore can also be clever and artful if that connection is the end purpose).

Regardless of edits, it's a very cool final piece Adarias.  :y:

 

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Re: pixeljoint weekly challenge

Reply #12 on: November 07, 2007, 04:34:38 pm
"No! Skin isn't light blue...and hair isn't just shades of blue either...you should have brown for brown hair, and skin tones for skin colors."


"He's got a big green splotch on his face, you might want to check that out..."


"Yeah, way too much green, red, and yellow on the face....and the white streaks you've got, hurt to look at---what, is he wearing a stripe suit or something?"

I donno,  guess Picasso, Dali, and Van Gogh really didn't know much about art...


Color choice doesn't have to be based on a mirror-like mentality.   It can, but it doesn't have to be.   So, for one, color choice can be a mood/emotion thing.  And so if you are going for this, I think Adarias has succeeded quite well: The original colors definately portray a b-movie, 70's-film-quality feel to them, and does so enviously within the color restraints.
And arguably, I think every color of light is hitting the object anyways...so when you see an apple, there really is blue and green, not just shades of red.

i could proof read this and put in big words to make me sound more credible, but i'm just not in the mood right now...


But as for critiques and such:
-I think the idea is good....broccolifro's a new concept for me.  :y:
-It's not really a color thing...well it sort of is: it's rather inconstant  in value, and what I mean by that is that the pants go way dark, whereas the fold of the fro and branches and stuff really don't go as in depth.  It's an emphasis thing really; what do you want us to see more? Otherwise it's a preference thing I guess...
-The lighting on the bat seems iffy, but almost necessary I guess... Because if you look how you've shaded the rest of the figure, it is really a front-left thing, but the light on the bat is all from the right...up to you I suppose.
-Lastly, the part dangling from the bandanna really, really lacks readability.  Upside down sponge bob?  I really can't decipher what it is...
(I'm going from the first version by the way... :-X)

But, over all, nice work  :y:
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Re: pixeljoint weekly challenge

Reply #13 on: November 07, 2007, 04:42:52 pm
And arguably, I think every color of light is hitting the object anyways...so when you see an apple, there really is blue and green, not just shades of red.

Well, sunlight has pretty much the full spectrum of colours visible to us which adds up to to an almost white, slightly yellow light. But objects have the colour which they don't absorb. Something that is black absorbs pretty much all light and reflects none. Something which is blue absorbs everything other than blue from the spectrum and so on.
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Re: pixeljoint weekly challenge

Reply #14 on: November 07, 2007, 04:45:29 pm
Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Thanks for the clarification   :):y:
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Re: pixeljoint weekly challenge

Reply #15 on: November 07, 2007, 05:57:22 pm
Great piece! I especially like the positioning of the legs and the stance; it definitely conveys the attitude of the movie. One crit -- it might look more interesting if the broccoli stems from his neck. The shapes along the stem could nicely approximate the sternocleidomastoids. Right now it seems to be sprouting from his chest, the ends of the stem running into his pecs.

Also, the Dali painting is of Frida Kahlo, so "SHE's got a big green splotch on HER face", Rydin.  ;D

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Re: pixeljoint weekly challenge

Reply #16 on: November 07, 2007, 06:03:38 pm
Also, the Dali painting is of Frida Kahlo, so "SHE's got a big green splotch on HER face", Rydin.  ;D

Haha, why would anyway wanna paint Kahlo, really (apart from herself). Funny joke tho :P
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Re: pixeljoint weekly challenge

Reply #17 on: November 07, 2007, 07:36:29 pm
i don't think shar was implying that alternative color styles are bad, just that they are more difficult to understand, which i agree with.  I also agree that I put together colors that agitate each other and that this doesn't help readability at all. 

Personally, I enjoy when, in certain pieces, the colors fight each other because i think it creates an excitement.  This comes from a personality however that prefers not to really look at the subject matter but rather to revel in the interplay between the hues and shades.

i'm engaged in a constant struggle between finding certain things appealing (garish color mixing) and making good (readable) art.  I love representative abstraction (to the point where it isn't always even clear WHAT is being represented anymore), and that isn't readable, either.
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Re: pixeljoint weekly challenge

Reply #18 on: November 07, 2007, 09:01:25 pm
Big Brother, are you sure? It says it is a self-portrait on the site I got it from...  :P But I do agree that it looks a lot more like Frida's likeness than Dali's...  Anyways, back to critique and such.
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Re: pixeljoint weekly challenge

Reply #19 on: November 07, 2007, 10:06:26 pm
Great Job Adarais, however a comment on the legs. Some of the AA there near the back of the leg, doesn't look good. The red-brown color doesn't help with aa and instead to me just makes it stand out more.
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