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[WIP] "Blobby" (first post :D)

on: February 04, 2007, 10:16:18 pm
I've been pixelling for a while now but i'm still not as good as i'd like (but hopefully i'm getting there). Anyway heres a little cartoon creature i did to practice light sources and shading. Done in MS paint, took about an hour and a half, idea first thought up in a german lesson (not strictly relevent lol)

Crits?

« Last Edit: February 21, 2007, 11:17:06 am by Omegasonic »

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #1 on: February 04, 2007, 10:43:01 pm
An hour and a half for this is pretty bad, but considering the quality of the piece, it's probably not important at your skill level.


Pretty horrible edit of the piece, but it shows some important things.. You have way too many colors in here, especially ones that are almost identical. I did a bit of AA'ing, increased contrast, dithered around a bit..
« Last Edit: February 04, 2007, 10:46:12 pm by Kame »

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #2 on: February 04, 2007, 10:57:18 pm
He didn't have far too many colors, they just needed a bit more contrast ^^

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #3 on: February 04, 2007, 11:16:23 pm
Quick 15 minute edit:


Here's what I did;

-I AA'ed just about everything except the background, I think it's fine.
-Added a buffer tone between the darkest and the second darkest.
-I lowered the saturation.  You had almost every color set to 100.
-The left foot was pilow shaded, so I fixed that.

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #4 on: February 04, 2007, 11:50:52 pm
I think that's nice for an hour and half, I would take more than that to make something on that level. But I'm just a noob, anyway... =\
It looks good, only thing I was gonna say is that it didn't look so roundy, but now with the edits it is nice.
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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #5 on: February 05, 2007, 12:03:36 am
forget the background work on shape and form first.

yay for 2 minute purple shadowed oekaki edits:



goodnight
« Last Edit: February 06, 2007, 07:52:22 pm by Feron »

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #6 on: February 05, 2007, 02:58:23 am
He didn't have far too many colors, they just needed a bit more contrast ^^
Sorry, I meant that too many of his colors were pretty much useless. Minced my words up or however you say it.

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #7 on: February 05, 2007, 01:01:27 pm
:D

I had added AA, and moved light source. Spikes are now replaced by 'hair'. :P
« Last Edit: February 05, 2007, 03:33:09 pm by TeenIce »

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #8 on: February 05, 2007, 03:54:09 pm
I dnt think your edit makes the most of possible AAing TeenIce I'd personally do this..

« Last Edit: February 05, 2007, 04:16:52 pm by Terley »
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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #9 on: February 05, 2007, 04:22:09 pm
Yea, your right. It was just a quick edit, I dont have time to play with it seriously right now. ;)

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #10 on: February 05, 2007, 04:39:05 pm
Ok had 10 mins to try editing it.


Increased contrast between the main colours.
Tried a bit of dithering
Quickly changed some colours in the eye.

When  get more time im going to AA. Then if i get the hang of that i'll go back to the lines and recolour it with the light direction TeenIce suggested (love that shading!)

-I lowered the saturation.  You had almost every color set to 100.

Hehe, paints telling me it was set to 240, ill tone them down so they dont burn your eyes out in the next edit XD

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #11 on: February 05, 2007, 04:51:02 pm
I think you should chose colors before shading and adding AA (at least that one you will use as basic color). ;) Btw. read topics about AA practice.

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #12 on: February 05, 2007, 07:53:34 pm
Ok had 10 mins to try editing it.


Increased contrast between the main colours.
Tried a bit of dithering
Quickly changed some colours in the eye.

When  get more time im going to AA. Then if i get the hang of that i'll go back to the lines and recolour it with the light direction TeenIce suggested (love that shading!)

-I lowered the saturation.  You had almost every color set to 100.

Hehe, paints telling me it was set to 240, ill tone them down so they dont burn your eyes out in the next edit XD



On my slider, it's just 0-100 in percentage.

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #13 on: February 05, 2007, 09:06:23 pm
KK, What program do you use? im told paints crap...

I've tried a few colour variations but im not happy with it yet.

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #14 on: February 05, 2007, 09:23:19 pm
You can use Graphicsgale or Promotion. They both are good and have trial verions ^^ (GG's being nearly complete)

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #15 on: February 05, 2007, 09:33:15 pm
I prefer Graphicsgale. I was using Promotion but its only 30 day trial and there are some problems with saving to GIF files.

If you're having problems with colors - copy them from someones work :P

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #16 on: February 05, 2007, 10:18:01 pm
If you're having problems with colors - copy them from someones work :P

Because we need more people following this philosophy.  ::)

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #17 on: February 05, 2007, 11:22:11 pm
oh wow I didnt read the whole topic I jst editted someone elses edit. sry bout that.  :-[

well Omegasonic I wouldn't be atall concerned about AAing at the moment, your work needs more contrast imo, not to say everything you do needs high contrasting colours just especially with pixel art it's nice to see a bit more depth. there's hardly any difference between each shade with just gives it a flat look, whether your shading/lightsource is correct without the contrast there just isn't any depth.

You've used a straight forward dithering technique to smoothen the transition of each shade, which isn't atall necissery I like the phrase 'only dither where absolutely necissery'.

looking good though that edit should help. But don't be too concerned about AAing, its more for finishing pieces imo, your main concern should always be shape, lighting and colour.
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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #18 on: February 05, 2007, 11:50:33 pm
KK, What program do you use? im told paints crap...

I've tried a few colour variations but im not happy with it yet.

I use Pixen.  But it's only for Macs.

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #19 on: February 06, 2007, 02:08:15 pm
I prefere graphics gale because its easy to learn and it is much faster than MS paint :)

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #20 on: February 06, 2007, 07:48:26 pm
I'm gonna check out graphicsgale, ty.

Went back to the lines and heres my attempt at shifting the lightsource. I also toned the colours down. I havn't done it all yet because i want to know if the lights right before carrying on shading it.

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #21 on: February 07, 2007, 07:08:17 pm
Sorry for double post, spent ten mins re-colouring and dithering. crits on the newest?

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #22 on: February 20, 2007, 09:25:40 pm
Bumpipty Bump :)

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #23 on: February 20, 2007, 11:19:45 pm
Don't bump your threads if you have no update on your artwork, this is bad form.
There are no ugly colours, only ugly combinations of colours.

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #24 on: February 21, 2007, 01:14:56 am
Sorry for double post, spent ten mins re-colouring and dithering. crits on the newest?



thats my update :/ nobody commented so i dont know how to improve.

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #25 on: February 21, 2007, 01:24:51 am
It's looking nice!But:

i'd personally change the eyes to make them more...cute.. :P
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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #26 on: February 21, 2007, 01:31:44 am
There is plenty to learn even if you haven't received comments on your latest update. You haven't really seemed to take much of the advice posted above into consideration. Numerous edits have been made which illustrate how the piece lacks depth, volume, and contrast. Looking at the update and the first image you started with, there is little difference. If you aren't diligent with it, don't expect to get much better.

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Re: "Blobby" (first post :D)

Reply #27 on: February 21, 2007, 08:47:37 am
It's looking nice!But:

i'd personally change the eyes to make them more...cute.. :P
-CK-

:D love those eyes!
After i change those ill try AAing it.

EDIT: AAed it, modified the eyes and recouloured the mouth :)



« Last Edit: February 21, 2007, 11:16:29 am by Omegasonic »