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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

on: September 26, 2006, 07:15:37 am
Actual expertise, not by a person who is into the editing scene. Just the actual technical knowledge of what constitutes a sprite, where the term comes from. Also I strongly contest for one

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Although mixing can be rather simple and easy, it requires more experience, skill, and constructive criticism to master. Since not all sprites are similar, somewhat complex principles are involved, such as proportions, light source (shade), and flow (how well the sprite blends or flows).

Editing is probably the most general term in spriting styles, and the most common. Editing is, quite simply, the art of changing a sprite somehow.

The validity of both of these statements. The relative skill involved in editing a sprite, even editing it good is somewhere under the earth of what it takes to actually sprite. Which is what this is supposed to be about, right? Also 'the art of editing' (sic).

Then it goes on about 'custom spriting'. That should be the default usage of the term, as far as I can tell. Editing and its' lowly subforms should be a minor footnote, no?

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As such, so-called "pixel-art comics" use, in reality, the same rules as sprite comics. Despite this, such a title is still a useful term as it tends to distinguish between those comics that are based on video games and those comics that merely use sprites (or pixel art) to tell an original tale.

Is this 'clarification' the result of the Squidi fallout?

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For example, a difference can be found in the shading of the sprite. Although it is not as widely used as most outline effects, a method known as overshading may be used to smoothen the shading of a sprite and even make it look more three-dimensional. Overshading consists in increasing the number of shades used on a sprite (usually double the original), such as by mixing two existing shades of a color to create the center shade or by manually creating extreme light and dark shades. Overshading usually goes hand-in-hand with shaded all-color outlines (no black), and it requires good shading skills to be effective. A badly done overshade may cause the sprite to look flat or even pressed down. You can also dither to smooth out a sprite. This is mixing two shades in a checkerboard pattern. This is used more in bigger sprites.

Dispite the awful writing of all this, it's also a crock of shit? How can you turn a bad thing (blanket-shading) into a good thing? You give it a different new fancy name. Awful.

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There are also some other minor yet still well-known styles of spriting. These, however, are currently not very popular. In addition, as mentioned above, spriters are constantly creating their own styles, and therefore a complete list is virtually impossible to compile.

Yes, so let's just write a huge paragraph about blanket-shading and leave it at that.

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Once all the sprites have been pasted and organized on the sheet, tags, messages or titles may be added to make the sprite sheet look good and pose restrictions on its usage

oh god, why is ripper-subculture etiquette in a wiki article about spriting?

I call for massive wikiediting.

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #1 on: September 26, 2006, 07:32:20 am
I second that!

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #2 on: September 26, 2006, 07:35:09 am
Is this 'clarification' the result of the Squidi fallout?

I'd say so yes.

Anyway, I agree. Use the discussion feature first, or else stuff like this usually results in edit-wars (and they'll beat us with experience there *flourish*). I don't see myself in a position to contribute much, but I'd love to see some of the people with a professional background or that at least are actually field-tested do that.

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #3 on: September 26, 2006, 07:40:36 am
ugh yes. and maybe even some correct grammar & tone (grammatical not graphical) while we are at it?

Hmm it seems to have infected the main sprite article too
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Sprite culture
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More recently, sprites are edited or created by fans in a process called "spriting". "Spriters" mostly use them to become sprite comic artists, for the purpose of creating a video game-themed comic. It has been continued by Macromedia Flash animators who create sprite cartoons. In these communities, spriting has been made into small sections; recoloring, edits, customs, etc. Sprites can be alternated by using techniques such as the ones above. By doing this, Spriters can create their very own "Sprite character" to use in "Sprite sheets" to show that the sheet was made by that spriter but the spriter must put a "sprite tag" on the sheet saying something like "Please do not steal" or "give credit" or "If you wish to put this on your site, do not remove this tag",etc. Sprites can be edited from any game where sprites are available. Making pictures with sprites is called a "Hoax" which is the sprites in a group or doing certain actions but a "Hoax" is not a true image from a game.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2006, 07:43:23 am by Akira »
thanks Dogmeat!

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #4 on: September 26, 2006, 12:26:05 pm
Hmm it seems to have infected the main sprite article too
That could be easily fixed by changing the subheading to 'Sprite editing culture'.
Should there be a section on real 'Sprite culture'? Or would that be something more appropriate to the 'pixel art' article?
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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #5 on: September 26, 2006, 02:55:33 pm
I am actually appalled at this.  One because its a load of shit and secondly, why should there be a wiki for something so pathetic, illegal (normally), people with no artistic talent, and its just ridiculous.

I would gladly help re-write it.

Perhaps we could write our own chunks here on the forum and upload as a big piece?

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #6 on: September 26, 2006, 03:13:18 pm
Wow - I also would be happy to help with some rewrite, especially for basic principles.  Feel free to cannibalize stuff from this old tutorial of mine:

http://www.lastchancemedia.com/tutorials/4bit.html

(There are some inaccuracies in that article still, but I've gotten very positive feedback from beginners about the section on palettes/palette swapping, so maybe that could be of use?)

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #7 on: September 26, 2006, 03:23:11 pm
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Once all the sprites have been pasted and organized on the sheet, tags, messages or titles may be added to make the sprite sheet look good and pose restrictions on its usage

wtf? dunno if i should laugh or cry.

 :y: good initiative helm

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #8 on: September 26, 2006, 03:59:40 pm
I'm shocked really. This has sprite rippers all over it. EWW. It's gross, unprofessional, not well written and an insult to all us real pixel pushers...

Also, I never understood the little "don't use this" copyright tags. You can't just invent your own copyright laws like that. Unless you actually trade mark a design, it's not yours and very hard to hold on to...

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #9 on: September 26, 2006, 06:58:12 pm
The stuff about Sprite Sheet is just all ripping and wrong..  :-\