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[WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

on: March 30, 2016, 04:42:56 pm
Just looking for another set of eyes to see if anything look wonky.  Used various references sparingly from the internet.
I plan add color and maybe clothes.
Thanks
« Last Edit: April 04, 2016, 10:48:59 pm by dpixel »

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Re: [WIP] girl line art

Reply #1 on: March 30, 2016, 04:52:57 pm
The arms look too thin or too short, but otherwise it looks pretty good

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Re: [WIP] girl line art

Reply #2 on: March 30, 2016, 07:00:01 pm
The arms look too thin or too short, but otherwise it looks pretty good
Thanks for the reply.  Now the torso looks too short to me, now that you mentioned the arms.

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Re: [WIP] girl line art

Reply #3 on: March 31, 2016, 12:34:04 pm
An edit with the original on the left:


EDIT:
Messing with some color:
               
« Last Edit: March 31, 2016, 07:48:38 pm by dpixel »

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Re: [WIP] girl line art

Reply #4 on: March 31, 2016, 09:55:22 pm
It still looks kind of odd to me, but I don't know why...

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Re: [WIP] girl line art

Reply #5 on: March 31, 2016, 11:29:11 pm
Some thoughts:

« Last Edit: March 31, 2016, 11:33:46 pm by JinnDEvil »

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Re: [WIP] girl line art

Reply #6 on: April 01, 2016, 03:57:19 am
Great edit Jinn.  Gave me a lot of insight.  My shoulder didn't look right next to yours.  Messed around a bit more...


I've got a bent leg idea.  Can't pull it off just yet.   :huh:

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Re: [WIP] girl line art

Reply #7 on: April 01, 2016, 04:35:45 am
Don't have time to edit everything, but here's some more ideas.


Also try adding a little bit of story to it.
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Re: [WIP] girl line art

Reply #8 on: April 01, 2016, 07:29:54 pm
Love the edit PixelPiledriver.  Thanks. The face looks like someone I know...lol  Lovely hair and a perfect pixel butt!  I like what you did with her right hip too.  She's skinny and why didn't I think of that?
As far as a story, I wouldn't know where to start.  Do you mean adding something else?

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Re: [WIP] girl line art

Reply #9 on: April 02, 2016, 03:34:05 am
A bit of a rework...still messing with the feet and legs

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Re: [WIP] girl line art

Reply #10 on: April 04, 2016, 04:19:11 pm
Here's my take on your latest version, tried to keep your style as much as possible.



EDIT: alternate version, dunno which is better or less worse ha



I think the main thing that needs fixing is that your limbs are a bit too thin. I also think that in that perspective there should be no space between the legs, but maybe someone with better anatomic knowledge can give better advice. I like the sprite, looks cute. Hope this is helpful.
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Re: [WIP] girl line art

Reply #11 on: April 04, 2016, 07:55:08 pm
Thanks for the edit.  You're probably right about the leg "space".  I'm actually unsure about her left leg for some reason.
The face is cute too with the little pixie-like nose.

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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #12 on: April 05, 2016, 08:23:27 am
I would expect with her figure, there would be an inner thigh gap. But the shading wasn't right near the right knee especially.

Also, the other thing that's off is her upper right arm, it's too long. Compare it with her left arm but notice her right shoulder is further away from us because she is turned.

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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #13 on: April 05, 2016, 05:17:02 pm
Some more tweaking:


Also, the other thing that's off is her upper right arm, it's too long. Compare it with her left arm but notice her right shoulder is further away from us because she is turned.
I played with this a bit and couldn't get it to look right.  The left upper arm is foreshortened and both arms are at different angles somewhat.  The left elbow is more pointing toward the viewer. 

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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #14 on: April 06, 2016, 07:31:46 am
I see. They are reading as the same angle for me. I guess you need to actually change the angle of the left arm to be different from the right arm. It might be easier to just shorten the right arm to match the left arm, keeping them at the same angle?
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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #15 on: April 06, 2016, 01:09:24 pm
I feel that a lot of problems stem from a lack of knowledge in anatomy; notably the the lower half of the body (buttocks and legs).

The butt lacks form, it simply looks like two circles while in reality it is quite far from the case. Additionally, consider the fact you're using a counterpose (with the leg from our left being the weight bearer) and as such the butt cheeks will be at an angle, with the left one being higher and more stressed, and the right one being lower and more relaxed.
The left leg should have more definition in terms of musculature, to fit with the fact it's bearing most of the weight. The right foot should be pointed towards the viewer more than it currently is; while it's not impossible for it to be facing inwards as it is now, I think it would be more graceful if it wasn't.

I think that you should move the front elbow closer to the viewer, as it seems rather unnatural for it to be that close to the back (try to imagine how it would look from a bird's-eye view/above)
With the hair you should try to imagine it being twisted upside down (as if it were a piece of fabric for example) and wrapped around the shoulder.

Also, be careful with where you use the black; in my mind it implys the darkest spot you can have in that image, that is, the area with the least light being reflected.


This edit is far from perfect, but I hope it is of some help.
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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #16 on: April 06, 2016, 04:05:33 pm
Thanks Night.  Great edit.  Ya.  Of course there's a lack of knowledge in anatomy, but I like to mess around with stuff like this from time to time.  I'll improve gradually, but it'll never be perfect.   :(   
My vision for this was cutsie and semi anime.  That's why the foot is facing in a bit.  Actually, I wanted it turned in more.  And I also know it's not a comfortable/natural pose.....maybe 75%?  lol 
Again great edit.  I will learn more from this.  Might make an edit today if I can find some time.

Also, I love all these edits.  Seeing all the different styles can help me to develop my own, which I feel I don't have except for messy pixels.   :(    ;)    I do like what I have so far for this though.

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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #17 on: April 07, 2016, 06:14:25 pm
You're welcome, I'm glad you like it!

By no means am I suggesting you shouldn't do this if you don't have proficient knowledge in anatomy; after all, there's only one way to improve in that respect, and that is practice.

Well, at least you're improving.  :P You shouldn't put yourself down, I don't think perfection in the sense that you reach an end-goal is attainable, you will always learn and find new stuff to improve upon, even when you're very skilled.

In that case, I'd suggest to move the thigh a bit more inwards, as such:
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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #18 on: April 08, 2016, 01:19:12 am
Yes I do like it.  Looks very correct.

Well, at least you're improving.  :P You shouldn't put yourself down, I don't think perfection in the sense that you reach an end-goal is attainable, you will always learn and find new stuff to improve upon, even when you're very skilled.
I'm just being a realist.  I swear some people just have more natural talent or at least it seems that way.  Although, I had no art training when I was younger.  I've been doing this since 09 I think, and was hoping to be better, but then again, I couldn't even draw a decent looking line back then.   :P

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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #19 on: April 08, 2016, 07:48:14 pm
Yes, some people have more talent than others.  What's your point?  Only one person in the world has the most artistic talent.  Should he be the only artist? No, obviously not.  The US had 2.5 million professional artists in 2001.  When you factor in all of the non-professional artists and all of the other countries in the world you end up with tens of millions of artists in the world.  Imagine if they all gave up because they realized that some people are naturally more talented than others.

Instead of being discouraged by great artists you should be inspired.  Learn from them and just do your best.  You're already better than I am and I have no shame in my abilities.

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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #20 on: April 08, 2016, 08:22:55 pm
Yes, some people have more talent than others.  What's your point?  Only one person in the world has the most artistic talent.  Should he be the only artist? No, obviously not.  The US had 2.5 million professional artists in 2001.  When you factor in all of the non-professional artists and all of the other countries in the world you end up with tens of millions of artists in the world.  Imagine if they all gave up because they realized that some people are naturally more talented than others.

Instead of being discouraged by great artists you should be inspired.  Learn from them and just do your best.  You're already better than I am and I have no shame in my abilities.

I guess the point is artistic abilities come slower for me.   I am not at all discouraged.  If I was I would have stopped years ago. And I am very inspired by other artists.  It was just a ramble.  Sure I wish i was easier for me,  but it is what it is. And Im not putting my self down for it at all. Sorry to sound that way.

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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #21 on: April 09, 2016, 02:53:15 am
Update:


Over all I'm pretty satisfied.  Very happy with the feet now.   :)

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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #22 on: April 09, 2016, 09:14:19 am
Been watching this thread for a bit, great improvement so far  :y:

I know this body type, so it was interesting, and a bit flustering trying to take this further. I had to add a color. I think right now the shapes are in an odd place: in-between something more realistic, and something more idealized; and I think it would benefit from being pushed more in either direction. The face says idealized, the figure says realistic.



This might be a lateral change more than anything ( more rendering) but perhaps is of some use.

The most objective of fixes were the length of the upper arms ( too short previously) and the slight tilt of the pelvis so it didn't flatten out unnaturally.

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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #23 on: April 10, 2016, 07:09:40 am
That's an awesome edit. I haven't even played with colors yet, but love the richness. Just when I thought I was getting the hang of color, you through this at me.  Amazing!  That hair is just crazy. But yeah, I see that in-between realistic and idealistic.  Hey...I want it all...lol :D  But jeez..you really pulled together what I did.  I haven't gone as far as adding another color yet, but this is definitely food for thought.  Thanks.   :)

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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #24 on: April 16, 2016, 04:14:07 am
Been messing with a couple more for practice.  Still WIPs and still using the same pallete.  One with a more realistic face.   :-\

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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #25 on: April 16, 2016, 04:54:19 pm
Edit for fun  ;D

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Re: [WIP] girl line art (NSFW)

Reply #26 on: April 18, 2016, 04:56:33 pm
That is a fun edit.   ;D