a tree I made it for another battle on the "PIXEL" forums

[tomster 785]

here



C+C appreciated

[Helm]

What I told you before still stands. Your art will benefit from foundation-level work on paper and pencil, with a tutor of some sort. We cannot help you at this level. You are 12, just starting out. You have to do a lot of practise work on your own, for years, before nitpick crits about pixel art methodology on this forum can help you. All you are doing is putting yourself in a hopeless position.

[tomster 785]

I'm 13 now but I would stilll like some critique, just not something like what draco said in my chris "the geometry does not accurtely portray the shape your going for" or something like that

[Skull]

Not all tree's have round tops for leaves. I think the colours seem a bit off and certainly over-dithered.

[Helm]

But he is right. Critique is critique. You don't have a good grasp on form. You don't have a good grasp on lighting, nor on color choice or pixel-specific techniques. That's fine, none of the people that do magically got that way. But This isn't the place to learn basic skills. I cannot make this any clearer. We cannot help you portray a tree generally, we can help you with pixel-specific critique on how to make your already competent depiction of a tree better in the application of pixel art skills. Please seek fundamental help elsewhere. I'm sure there are forums for that, too. Do not post new piece after new piece demanding some sort of 'different' critique than what you've already gotten.

[tomster 785]

I changed it here

[ptoing]

One thing to keep in mind. More or less all professional artists agree on this. Forums are good for intermediate level artists and good for advanced ones as well to get new skills/ inspiration. But for novice artists, people who start out graphics forums in any form are generally BAD, BAD, BAD. Just get a sketchbook and draw stuff you see, don't draw too much from your head. Use REFERENCE! There have to be trees, houses, people, animals around where you live. DRAW THEM. Don't try to improve specialised art skills like pixelart when you can not even draw something properly with a pencil.

[Feron]

Seriously - pixel art is an incredibly complicated medium.  Until you can do regular mediums competantly you havent got a chance at pixel--art.  As helm said, we can only help you with pixel-art techniques, as i doubt no-one would be prepared to spend hours teaching you the basics.  

We can help you dither, AA, selout, color choice, texture, pallette restrictions, etc...

We cannot teach you how to draw accurately, get a good sense of anatomy, lightsource, build an image with a good pose/flow.

Pixel-art is all about manipulating pixels  and playing-god with colors to make an image to the human eye - not about being to lazy to get off the computer and practising your sketching/basic art skills.

About this piece - try and draw individual leaves finalredemption.com is a great inspiration for anyone learning to pixel trees.  Also try make the trunk a decent trunk color, make it thicker, give it a proper lightsource, go and look at the color of trees around your house - I wood (excuse the pun ) bet 100$ none of them look like this.


EDIT: damn you ptoing for summarising my main points in far less words 

[tomster 785]

I like those types of ways of thinking about being a pixel artist, the messing around with pixels like god would with the world, and well I used the tree texture from a tree right outside of my window and I did the leaves from a tutorial on pixel forums

[ptoing]

Don't use tutorials from the internet until you can judge what is worth reading. JUST STUDY FROM NATURE.