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[WIP] [C&C] Random portrait (help needed, I guess]

on: November 04, 2014, 06:20:04 pm

So I have been drawing another pixel face for quite a some time, but at certain point stopped without knowing what to do next because of two main problems: 1) I somehow messed up girl's face proportions or such (here is the main ref pic), but I have no idea how to fix that because I cannot even say what exactly is wrong 2) I also have no idea how to draw this type of straight forelock (I guess this is the right word if I'm talking about the part of the hair which lies on the forehead :crazy:)

I'll try to fix these issues by myself, but any suggestions of how to fix tat or actual fixes would be highly appreciated.

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Re: [WIP] [C&C] Random portrait (help needed, I guess]

Reply #1 on: November 04, 2014, 06:36:47 pm
The main thing I see is that her chin is too big.   Also, eyes are too small and too high.  Try playing with that.

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Re: [WIP] [C&C] Random portrait (help needed, I guess]

Reply #2 on: November 04, 2014, 07:12:37 pm
Her eyes, nose and mouth is bigger. A lot bigger. Her chin is smaller a bit. Try fixing it.

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Re: [WIP] [C&C] Random portrait (help needed, I guess]

Reply #3 on: November 05, 2014, 03:53:38 am
Woah, thanks for all the replies. I guess I was too sleepy to figure out the obviousness of these issues back then, I shall start fixing them immidiately when I'll return from studying.




The sizes are fixed, now it is time to redo the form.




So this is how far I could get. Looks like quite an improvement in comparison with the starting pic, but something still feels very wrong about it. Any suggestions?
« Last Edit: November 05, 2014, 07:20:08 pm by PixelPiledriver »

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Re: [WIP] [C&C] Random portrait (help needed, I guess]

Reply #4 on: November 05, 2014, 07:24:43 pm
Hair pops up to high on the head unless there is going to be shading to explain it.

This guys videos can really help you understand how to do great hair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P29NKg19c7o&list=UU6JhH563c-CoIxOOhkHPLnQ

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Re: [WIP] [C&C] Random portrait (help needed, I guess]

Reply #5 on: November 05, 2014, 09:28:17 pm

Thanks for the useful video, Altourus. I shall refer to it when I'll get to drawing hair, though now I am still uncertain about the face's form. Everything about it seems right, but similarity between the photo and the drawing is still not notable enough and once again I have no idea what to do about it :P

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Re: [WIP] [C&C] Random portrait (help needed, I guess]

Reply #6 on: November 05, 2014, 10:58:38 pm
the light source should be from further to the right.

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Re: [WIP] [C&C] Random portrait (help needed, I guess]

Reply #7 on: November 05, 2014, 11:41:42 pm
The likeness is a lot better.

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the light source should be from further to the right.
Basically this.
You're drawing a symmetrical, evenly lit rendition while using a non symmetrical, heavily directional lit photo as reference.

There's nothing wrong with that.
But you have to be aware of it and choose.

Do you want to draw the photo?  --> pure observational recording
Or do you want to draw the person in the photo? --> information gathering interpretation --> you'd do much better with 2 or 3 photos from different angles



And knowing that it is, we seek what it is... ~ Aristotle, Posterior Analytics, Chapter 1

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Re: [WIP] [C&C] Random portrait (help needed, I guess]

Reply #8 on: November 06, 2014, 07:09:42 am
Yeah, I do understand what is this about, but sadly all I have is a bunch of nearly identical full face photos and my own memories :P
I guess I'm just going to continue playing around with it till I reach the result which will suit me good enough.