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Offline Volter9

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Bar scene corrections

on: November 27, 2012, 06:49:37 am
Hello everyone!

I'm newbie to this forum, and to pixel art, I need help to correct my bar scene. Here's bar scene:

You see, my bar scene looks ugly. I need advices how to improve my skill of pixel art  ;D . Thanks for any help  :)

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Re: Bar scene corrections

Reply #1 on: November 27, 2012, 08:55:52 am
imho, the cyan is too bright and saturated for use as a background. Plus vertical black stripes makes a lot of contrast noise that renders the rest almost hidden by the background.

Do you set a restriction to EGA colours ?

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Re: Bar scene corrections

Reply #2 on: November 27, 2012, 02:49:07 pm
Thank you. What do you mean "EGA restriction"? Using 16 color pallette? If yes, then no, I'm going to use something like "WebSafe colors", pallette from 1952 color. (GIMP Pallette)



Which color I should use for background?

P.S.: This one better than was?

« Last Edit: November 27, 2012, 03:09:26 pm by Volter9 »

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Re: Bar scene corrections

Reply #3 on: November 28, 2012, 08:56:09 am
Thank you. What do you mean "EGA restriction"?
I meant the EGA palette. Not simply 16 colours, but *those* 16 colours.
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I'm going to use something like "WebSafe colors", pallette from 1952 color. (GIMP Pallette)
Aha. I note that those are all fully saturated colours (except when drifting white), while backgrounds rendered with de-saturated, medium colours usually work best.


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P.S.: This one better than was?
Yup. You're still using a lot of ditherings, and the reason for doing so evades my understanding...

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Re: Bar scene corrections

Reply #4 on: November 28, 2012, 05:25:18 pm
Yup. You're still using a lot of ditherings, and the reason for doing so evades my understanding...

It's JPEG compression, not dithering.
Please save pixel art using non destructive formats like gif or png, and upload them on sites like imgur. We can't really appreciate the pixels here.
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Re: Bar scene corrections

Reply #5 on: November 28, 2012, 05:42:08 pm
it's dithering.. in a png..

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Re: Bar scene corrections

Reply #6 on: November 28, 2012, 05:48:06 pm
Actually, you can clearly see the jpg compression blocks and the color bleeding introduced by bad jpg compression. This is a renamed jpg or a jpg recompressed into a png.
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Re: Bar scene corrections

Reply #7 on: November 28, 2012, 06:06:55 pm
I see no jpg compression.  It's over-dithered but far too clean to have been a jpg.  And it's 'only' got 49 colours (and the original version has 44).  JPG artifacts tend to push the colour count into the thousands.
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Re: Bar scene corrections

Reply #8 on: November 28, 2012, 09:14:26 pm
Actually, you can clearly see the jpg compression blocks and the color bleeding introduced by bad jpg compression. This is a renamed jpg or a jpg recompressed into a png.

Dunno what you're looking at but: 

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Re: Bar scene corrections

Reply #9 on: November 28, 2012, 09:57:23 pm
While I hate going further off-topic, perhaps it's not such a terrible thing to clear things up with an example.



Here's a zoomed portion of the image at an low-to-average JPG compression ratio; as you can see, there are a ton of artifacts and thousands of extraneous, noisy colors present.

EDIT:  This isn't the original image scaled up; I took the original image, JPEG'd it, and then scaled it ;)
« Last Edit: November 29, 2012, 02:20:19 am by Ashbad »