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Help with a Tree

on: June 07, 2012, 02:44:17 pm
I have been messing up with this tree for few days and yet I couldn't make it good and satisfy myself. I skimmed through tutorials but they couldn't help me either.

Please help.

This is what I made:



Please help me make this better and improve at trees.

Thanking in advance.
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Re: Help with a Tree

Reply #1 on: June 09, 2012, 11:37:16 am
Bump. Please help.
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Re: Help with a Tree

Reply #2 on: June 09, 2012, 03:54:05 pm
Should be self-explaining...

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Re: Help with a Tree

Reply #3 on: June 10, 2012, 10:11:43 am
Thanks a lot Cyangmou, this tutorial helped me a lot!

But still I find it very hard to create those leafy textures you created.

This is what I made:



Thanks again for  help!
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Re: Help with a Tree

Reply #4 on: June 10, 2012, 01:14:41 pm
This looks a lot better! (great tutorial by the way, really great)
But still, it seems to me like you have only followed the first two arrows. The leaves are added in the last two steps, so you have another 2 arrows to follow.
Here are some more comments:
Where does the light come from?
Why black pixels in the art and why exactly there?
I think your highlights are too dark.
You use large areas without dithering. (This is no problem right now, follow the arrows and the dithering will come).
Why the random lines of pixels coming out of your tree? They look random and rushed, not natural and leave-y.

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Re: Help with a Tree

Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 03:23:24 am
Hello there!

So, leaves. I personally like to break down all of my work into basic shapes. I often see leaves as being triangular. The main issue with figuring out how to shape them, is deciding what you actually want this to look like. I recently have found out that there is a way to "switch" pixel art form cartoony to more detailed styles. It all originates from the shapes that you think of while you are drawing. So, to make this simpler, triangles will look more detailed and defined while circular leaf patterns will tend to produce more of a cartoon style.

Now on to actually learning leaf textures:

Step 1: Defining those shapes!


What I did here was actually draw out some leaves at different angles. The trick to this is to provide enough angles to have a nice variety of leaves, and to keep them readable as leaves even in a small size.

Step 2: Adding the leaves.....


In this step I thought of the different brightness of the leaves as different layers. I did not copy and paste the leaves from step 1. Instead, I kept those shapes a reference and redrew them where it was appropriate. When you are creating these layers, it's best to think of them as a mountain. The base (darkest layer) has to be much wider than the others, in order to support the rest of them.

Step 3: Stackin' dem layrzzzz


If these layers are the correct sizes, you should be able to place them on top of each other and see the final result. One thing that I found very important about the leaf placement was thinking of them as a checkerboard. Having the leaves only placed in diagonals with each other helps define the triangular form of the leaf, along with keeping illusions of large leaves from occurring.

I do not have a mini-tutorial on the other shape options of leaves, but I hope this helps!

PS. Dear god dithering, please no. This is wayyy too small of a tree and it would be inappropriate  >:(

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Re: Help with a Tree

Reply #6 on: June 11, 2012, 06:19:22 am
This is the tree I made using Cyangmou and Slym's tutorial.



Thanks a lot to everyone!
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Re: Help with a Tree

Reply #7 on: June 11, 2012, 07:56:30 am
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This is the tree I made using Cyangmou and Slym's tutorial.
Progress in this I see, hmm.

Yet, there's an issue with the highlight. What you highlight is what people will see the most from your texture, and here, I see spider-shaped patches, not leaves (esp. on the left on the tree). Separate the leaves more over there.

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Re: Help with a Tree

Reply #8 on: June 13, 2012, 01:52:01 pm
Here is the update:

Well to me these leaves look a lot like fruits, also I see there is lack to texture. How can I fix the two problems I see in this tree I made?

Thanking everyone once again!

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