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Pixel Art / Re: Ophelia - Need Advice on Foliage
« on: May 04, 2021, 07:13:29 pm »
Got an in-progress version because I'm running out of time today but want to know if the things I've tried are working.
Thanks so much! That definitely works and I've attempted something similar. I think I've been less successful as far as the foliage goes but it's still WIP. It's definitely an improvement. I'm beginning to fear that the landscape part of this may be beyond me
The tree appearance was based on a few reference images (along with looking at a load nearby while tearing my hair out, trying to figure out how to do them), but this one illustrates it pretty well. I was hoping to replicate the very low contrast appearance of the side that's in shadow by having it fade from textured to featureless. My hope was that the texture would be implied on the left-hand side, but I don't think it's working yet.
Based on previous crits, I wanted to have high contrast in some areas (such as by Ophelia herself) so I put a couple of trees in useful places with the darkest colour, then added ones further back in lighter shades before working on the texture. I'm not sure how salvageable this has made the nearest trees, but I'm hoping that the addition of shadows on the ground and following your advice about the bark has helped.
You're right about the lighting, and I'll continue to pull the bark texture further round the tree so it's more consistent.
Thanks, fskn! Apparently they have ferns in Denmark and I've seen at least one whole image of them by a river so... good enough for me! I've not really got very far into trying to add in leaf shapes. I mucked about with some fern shapes on the far bank and I think I need to go bigger and bolder for them to stand out. I'll keep working on that tomorrow, but it's another case of having literally no clue what I'm doing and experimenting by trial and error. Never let me do a landscape again
Thanks! As an experiment, I've tried adding a bit of the darkest tone to the top part of the hair. If people think the added contrast and general look of it is beneficial then I'll keep going tomorrow and shade all of the hair like that. My feeling is that it's better with the increased contrast, but I'm worried about it potentially looking too much like a pen drawing. I tried adding in some of the lighter parts of the brown ramp to blend the different tones in the hair but it looked like she had grey hairs.
Ultimately, I'm in control of the palette, but I don't see how to add or change a colour at this stage without it appearing inconsistently. One day I'll figure out how to build a palette better at the beginning of a drawing....
I guess it's a bit odd that the dark half of the trees is nearly pitch black with no visibile details. Maybe I'm wrong. I'd have to see some references.
EDIT: On Ophelia, the front of her face (our left side) is catching some light. Her hair seems darker on our right side and brighter on our left side. So it's weird that the nearest trees are pitch black on our left side, no?
See, this is the sort of stuff I'm trying to learn myself, so I shouldn't be giving advice. I just notice the pros are mixing warmer and colder hues a lot, giving their textures a richer, more complex fabric. And I don't know how to do that yet.
Thanks so much! That definitely works and I've attempted something similar. I think I've been less successful as far as the foliage goes but it's still WIP. It's definitely an improvement. I'm beginning to fear that the landscape part of this may be beyond me
The tree appearance was based on a few reference images (along with looking at a load nearby while tearing my hair out, trying to figure out how to do them), but this one illustrates it pretty well. I was hoping to replicate the very low contrast appearance of the side that's in shadow by having it fade from textured to featureless. My hope was that the texture would be implied on the left-hand side, but I don't think it's working yet.
Based on previous crits, I wanted to have high contrast in some areas (such as by Ophelia herself) so I put a couple of trees in useful places with the darkest colour, then added ones further back in lighter shades before working on the texture. I'm not sure how salvageable this has made the nearest trees, but I'm hoping that the addition of shadows on the ground and following your advice about the bark has helped.
You're right about the lighting, and I'll continue to pull the bark texture further round the tree so it's more consistent.
Maybe saying that you could add different types of leaves, like... Fern? Do they have fern in Denmark? Do they even grow near rivers? xD
Thanks, fskn! Apparently they have ferns in Denmark and I've seen at least one whole image of them by a river so... good enough for me! I've not really got very far into trying to add in leaf shapes. I mucked about with some fern shapes on the far bank and I think I need to go bigger and bolder for them to stand out. I'll keep working on that tomorrow, but it's another case of having literally no clue what I'm doing and experimenting by trial and error. Never let me do a landscape again
Also, I keep on getting the feeling that there should be some deeper shadow in and around the girl's hair, but that might just be me. Or maybe it's the brown shirt against the brown bank that isn't drawing enough attention to her. :shrug:
Thanks! As an experiment, I've tried adding a bit of the darkest tone to the top part of the hair. If people think the added contrast and general look of it is beneficial then I'll keep going tomorrow and shade all of the hair like that. My feeling is that it's better with the increased contrast, but I'm worried about it potentially looking too much like a pen drawing. I tried adding in some of the lighter parts of the brown ramp to blend the different tones in the hair but it looked like she had grey hairs.
Ultimately, I'm in control of the palette, but I don't see how to add or change a colour at this stage without it appearing inconsistently. One day I'll figure out how to build a palette better at the beginning of a drawing....