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Archived Activities / Re: Pixelator: Round 3 (rules)
« on: February 28, 2007, 06:30:13 pm »
I'm really looking forward to Blick vs Filax.. both have really strong personal style and pixelling skills, but I've never seen much in the way of animation from either. The final four are going to be fierce, I can't wait.

Pixel Art / Re: Wanna Wrestle?
« on: February 27, 2007, 09:46:02 pm »
I love the design.. whenever I see great small sprites like this, I want to see them move. Any plans to animate?

Maybe there's a middle ground between the black outline and no outline that would work.. because I prefer the outline, but I think it's too harsh. That said, though, it might look nice against a background.

Archived Activities / Re: Pixelator: Round 2 (Rules Fixed)
« on: February 22, 2007, 11:55:04 pm »
If you don't finish, you should be apologizing to the person that you knocked out, instead. Before, it was just a few people that couldn't get in. This time around, you run the risk of pissing off the 16 people that wanted to be in round 2.

As far as "turning a profit" being a sacred ground? I don't know - and even though I recognize that as hyperbole, I think it's off.

Personally, I've worked freelance more than enough to know that being a professional artist without a steady paycheck is terrifying. And there have been times where I've needed to pay the bills, so I've taken shit jobs that I normally wouldn't have. And I don't see it as "selling out" or anything even vaguely of the like, I just see it as trying to survive.

I don't personally know any professional artists who - outside of a stroke of luck and fame - have been able to get by without doing shit work from time to time. It seems universally accepted (or at the very least, accepted amongst most everyone I know) that you do the shit jobs in order to have the breathing room to do the ones that you love.

So, that's where my reasoning comes in. If Alex/Kon any professional artist needs to pay some bills, I feel his pain, and I wouldn't morally have a problem with him doing a lot of things. If it's unrelated to being hard up for work/money, if it's more of an ego issue, then - as an outsider, someone who doesn't know him and is speaking only to larger ideals here - I don't agree entirely with the morals behind that.

But, like I said before, it's his site. He's his own person. He should be allowed to do what he wants with his site and his life without being subjected to any sort of scrunity over his duties here.

I want to have a book printed and published, and I want to have finished a game. Ideally, I'd love to find a way to make games for a living, but I think it'd take a huge stroke of luck for that to happen. I also want to get into grad school, but first I need to figure out how to pay for it.

most people here (as someone esle already stated) are not even old enough to have a creditcard or paypal. But then again that is just my opinion.

Is that really true? I thought the userbase for Pixelation was mostly 18-25ish with a decent chunk of nearly-18-year-olds.

if this is to be a moderator issue, I'd like it to not be disconnected by the feeling of the community. Some things have been in the past, and I don't desire this anymore. This is a chance to discuss openly a matter that could very well be settled behind-the-scenes. It is not an issue of the practise of moderation (which would be best delt in private, yes) but rather an issue of the moral obligations of moderators, on which I am no more an authority than anyone else. I don't have the power to take action anyway. This is why this is a discussion, and I am just one more person with an opinion, surrounded by the userbase, with their opinions.

I understand, completely, where you're coming from. And my opinion on all of this, expressed in that previous post, was also just one person's opinion. I don't want to come off as if I'm trying to be any sort of moral authority here. But I feel like there are two things being expressed, one being an open question to gauge a community reaction, and the other being a strong opinion on the same question. Also, personally, I feel like moderators' questions and opinions carry more weight, so it's worth being careful about making that distinction in posts like this.

As far as the question at hand is concerned, I don't have a firm opinion on it.

On the one hand, Pixelation is a place where we all come to learn. We learn, and teach, in hopes of inspiring others, because we love it, and because we realize that a scene this small requires a lot of love in order to flourish. When someone (anyone) opts to charge other artists for their services, it makes a gap in that community circle. Charging clients is totally acceptable, but I feel like the problem that people are having with Alex's website stems from the fact that he's charging other pixel artists. I understand this view, and agree with it.

On the other hand, it depends on your personal interpretation of what that community circle consists of. Is it entirely inclusive to all pixel artists? Is it a completely open community? Or does the community end when you leave the community websites? The reason that any of us have websites, at heart, is to showcase our work in order to get paid work (this is a generalization). So is it that absurd that someone's website might function solely (or at least mostly) as a means of generating income? Personally, I don't think that's absurd at all. And if Alex is able to make money and pay his bills by doing so, then all the more power to him. Whenever he's on Pixelation, he's here to help - his website is exclusively his, though.

For me, it's a grey area. I don't see this as a situation that can be boiled down to right and wrong. As a member of the site, I personally don't have any problem with Alex doing what he's doing on his own site. I don't feel like it's going to interfere, in any way, with his moderating abilities. And my guess is that there won't be many people who feel like his actions are treading such hallowed moral ground that he should be asked to hand in his moderator badge. That said, however, I think that it's ultimately up to the people running the site to determine what sort of community and image they want the site to have - and if they believe that moral boundaries have been crossed, it's their decision to make.

Selling videos on the side is a little wack. I can understand the possible conflict of interest between that and Pixelation. I can understand why Helm has an issue with the morality of the motives behind Alex's new site - this is a dangerously small community as-is, we're all normally just here to help each other grow. For free, yeah?

But if this is really about Alex's moderating abilities/interests, then why is this being posted in General instead of the Mod forums? What's the point of posting some obscene all-caps bulletin? If you're really curious about how the community feels about this, as a moderator, an impartial and just observer, then why are all of your posts in this thread oozing passive-aggressive vitriol? If this is really a Mod issue, then just deal with it in the Mod forums. If this is a personal issue, then there's no reason to bring it here, deal with each other directly. If you're genuinely curious about how people feel, then don't try to make them feel the same way you do.

But other than that.. just chill out, guys. It's fucking pixel art. It's not worth this sort of bickering.

Archived Activities / Re: Pixelator: Round 2
« on: February 09, 2007, 11:08:11 pm »
Iso's easy when you work with mostly square shapes and simple shading. I'm working on an iso piece right now, it's a bitch.. when you stop using straight lines and iso-friendly angles, and start making weird curved surfaces that lay at weird angles it gets a lot trickier (and a lot more fun).

On a side note, Solid Idea, I'm so glad you won.. you obviously spent a good chunk of time on yours, I thought it was hilarious, it was so much more refined than my pathetic attempt. Good luck versus Lawrence!

Challenges & Activities / Re: Descramble It! Pixel Puzzle!
« on: February 07, 2007, 08:10:25 am »
I don't think that'd be a problem.. I'm sure there'd be at least a few people taking a crack at each one.

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