Sorry for the delayed response EvilEye and thanks for your comment. You are right about things not aligning up. I guess i was more interested in look and feel rather than things aligning up at that stage, but of course things do start to get complicated when they need to. As a result, i've had to go back a step. I need to work on dimensions/how things will click.

Progress has been very slow. I've set my focus on the door above as its a hard point for me and is unrelated to other issues i can't come make a decision about. Sorry that it's not much of an update but this has been a real challenge for me and i have spent AGES on it. I think its come a long way.

I still need to put fine details on the walls/arches and some small touches to the wood. I need to change the pallate (it does look a little dark to me too). Otherwise i think this is OK.



Thanks again.

I love your edit hatch. A real improvement. I always struggle with this kind of stuff so its always fascinating when something like this comes out. I just had to try an edit.

Hatchs vs My edit Based on Hatch's


My quick notes

1. First thing that struck me is the defined jaw line. Very nice. I think this alone is a huge improvement.
2. The height of the forehead is too short in my opinion. I wasn't exactly sure what it was missing at first. It needed temples, brow and then the rest of the forehead. I've given my guy a shave to illustrate. I haven't highlighted the brows on my edit though but take note of the temples and how they are shaded.
3. If you look at your original version and take a look at the centre of bridge in the nose, you should see that the right eye is a little too far away. I've pulled the right eye in a little (i've flipped my version.. sorry). I've also tried to be more subtle with shape of the eyebrows so i've pulled them in a little.
4. The mouth i've changed. This is what i do with most of my portraits. I don't know what it is but i prefer a tight lip so i've made the mouth slightly smaller, removed the shadow from the centre of the top lip and added small shadow to the edges of the mouth. I find this usually looks good.

let me know what you guys think.

UUgh.. i've lost count on how many hours i've spent on this one.. Here's an update..

Hey Mike

Its a good start but i do agree he looks a little out of shape.

When i saw this one for the first time the first thing that came to mind are those gothic dragon lamps that you can buy these days. Perhaps using one of these as a reference will help with this piece? I guess you can change it as you see fit but this should help a lot. I've found a reference


I think you'll notice pretty distinct differences between this and yours. I guess i'm not sure if you're willing to try this but trying to replicate this would be my suggestion.

I've been meaning to finish this one for some time but i've been so busy lately. To be honest i've only spent a short amount of time really studying anatomy since i left this but i think things are improving none the less. I realised that the entire thing was really flawed from the start so i made some pretty big changes. I jumped back into this one at the start of the week and have been working pretty casually since. This is my progress at the moment.

right now, connecting the shoulders to the body is a bit of a challenge. I'm dropping it for the moment and will start on getting the basic outline for the legs soon as i've only focussed on the upper body.



C&C welcome.