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Batman - Clayface (Need help with AA)[WIP] [C+C]

on: March 09, 2013, 04:10:55 pm
Hi guys. This is Matthew Hagen a.k.a Clayface from Batman the Animated Series.
Animation is there but it's still need some cleaning, and polishing. Every comment is welcome.  :)



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Re: Batman - Clayface [Animated][WIP] [C+C]

Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 01:19:08 am
Here is the new version, but I'm still not sure is animation quite right.

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Re: Batman - Clayface [Animated][WIP] [C+C]

Reply #2 on: March 11, 2013, 06:56:21 am
The animation is nice, definitely, but his breathing pattern makes it look like he's holding his breath. The way he brings his arms closer in when he inhales adds to that effect. I like how all the folds on him actually move when he breaths, though. The extra work shows! =)
And his facial morphing animations are nifty.

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Re: Batman - Clayface [Animated][WIP] [C+C]

Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 01:15:02 pm
Thank you. You are absolutely right. I knew that there is something wrong with breathing, but I couldn't find what is it. I'll try to redraw the hand movement.  :)

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Re: Batman - Clayface [Animated][WIP] [C+C]

Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 06:05:04 pm
Hmm, another thing would be to make the breathing not in sync with the head switches, it makes it feel kinda... Weird?
The arms extending don't really help the holding breath feel either, I think making the breathing shallower and more common with the original hand movement would make it look convincing?
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Re: Batman - Clayface [Animated][WIP] [C+C]

Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 08:54:47 pm
Thank you for your comment.  :)

In the second version animation wasn't in sync, and I was planing to return to that. I agree, this way it really feels weird. This "breathing" animation turn out to be my biggest problem here. I've lose to much time on it, and still can make it right.

PS What do you mean by "original hand movement"? Movement in earlier versions?

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Re: Batman - Clayface [Animated][WIP] [C+C]

Reply #6 on: March 12, 2013, 05:10:04 am
I still think the pause is a bit too long between breaths. When I breath naturally, there's really no pause; I'm either inhaling or exhaling. Even though you made the pause between breaths much shorter, it's still there, hence he still looks like he's holding his breath a bit.

Quick edit, just deleting all the extra frames you had around your fantastic animated bits. =)
Of course, now he looks like he's breathing a bit too quickly (maybe he saw batman, and now he's all flustered?), but you can fix that easily enough by slowing down the animation, and maybe doubling the frames towards the beginning and end of his breathing cycle, to give the feeling that he's slowing down towards the end of his inhales and towards the end of his exhales.

The last edit was a big step in the right direction, though. He's looking really cool!
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Re: Batman - Clayface [Animated][WIP] [C+C]

Reply #7 on: March 12, 2013, 12:18:15 pm
Thanks. I'm starting to hate this animation, just because of this "breathing". :'( The most funny thing is that Clayface doesn't breathe, or even have lungs... :crazy:
Anyway, here is the new Breathing animation, I hope it's better.
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Re: Batman - Clayface [Animated][WIP] [C+C]

Reply #8 on: March 12, 2013, 07:48:41 pm
I meant the hands moving in closer to the body with the original hand movement. <:D Sorry, I wasn't very clear about it.

That breathing looks a lot better already! There is still a pause that makes him look like he's holding his breath or perhaps trying to look intimidating by puffing his chest up.
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Re: Batman - Clayface [Animated][WIP] [C+C]

Reply #9 on: March 13, 2013, 12:13:30 am
This thing is pissing me off.  >:( It's not even fun, as it was. I made head animation in maybe 2h or less, but this breathing is hell. Here are two versions side by side. What do you guys think, which is better? ???
 
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