Ryu

[VictorR]

CnC welcome..
This is about my 2nd month of pixelating

Its still a working progress.

[Cure]

The lines are over AAed, giving them a thick, blurry look.  I'd suggest using less colors on the skin, And more contrast, especially on the (WIP) shirt.

[VictorR]

Ok, theres the final, dont be too hard on the face im no good with them.
I changed a few things and I agree with you I made the lines too thick but im satisfied with it.

[tomster 785]

why are all of his colours wrong? the hair is brown, yet you used dark grey, his robe thingy is white, yet you used pink, his gloves are red and you used brown, his eyes are brown yet you used pink, his skin colour is pale, yet you used half cast (yep using skin colour terms now) all the colours are wrong you even got his shading wrong (if you were trying to copy your referance pic)

[Frychiko]

His eyes are way too big, and he is looking to his right, instead in front of him.

[tomster 785]

I'm gonna make something, just to show you how it would look coloured in properly, will edit when done

edit: here:



sorta chibi like but it should show you what I mean about the colouring, it's looks better if the colours are right (and easier to tell who it is)

[Meta|Fox]

Tom: I think the colours he choose are just a stylistic preference, its too obviously different to be a mistake (oh and btw, edits are usually modifications of there piece to show what needs to be done (hence the name "edit"), not a new piece altogether)

VictorR: the main issue about the piece atm is the face and the anatomy of the forearm (though its not particular well done in the drawing either). use your ref pictures face as well, a reference for what your doing; look at the difference is proportion and placing of each of the features and imitate that within your own piece. other then that i think you've done the rest of it quite nicely.

[tomster 785]

I didnt say I was going to edit his peice, I said I was going to make a  peice, well I guess that is true but I think it would look better with the proper colours (and easier to tell who it is)

[Meta|Fox]

will edit when done

edit: here:

Hrm? even so, you generally should not make new pieces altogether just to show some one what you could show them in an edit (or even just words). its kinda Thread Hijackingish

[Draco9898]

This isn't bad, but it's lacking some shapes and contours of the original and some things are too boxy, like the eyes and the piece of his shirt going over his shoulder

[VictorR]

Thanks all, and I do agree I suck at faces..
The forearm anatomy was off and the colors I picked was to practice on color varying. I didn't want to make him exactly alike. Have you guys ever played street fighter? You can change the color of the peoples clothes.

[snake]

VictorR:

I wouldn't reccomend starting off looking at anime characters as their anatomy is usually abstract from the start. It usually helps to add realistic anatomy as it usually makes things look better in the end. I tried a quick edit to show what I mean:


No Ryu of course, but I managed to correct a few wrongs by comparing the abstracted parts with realistic measurements. For example, his head was too small for his body, his back extended too far to the right and so did his right (our right) arm. Both arms and hands needed resizing and I chose to exaggerate your lightsourse to show you the volume you missed. Personally, I think you are using way to many colours, some of which are barely visible and can be removed in favour of a single colour. I didn't add the glowing ball because I would have to add a second lighthsourse and colours to your palette and thus make this comment a little less usefull.

I'm sure there are a lot of faults in mine as well, but like you, I'm still learning human proportions. Hope I could help.

tomster 785:

I'm afraid I disagree with your palette change. It is Ruy's colours allright, but your overall contrast and shading won't improve VictorR's picture much IMO. Here's what I mean:

I did an edit on your piece and used your beam to create shadows. Using your palette, I didn't get enough contrast for the shadows and the overall contrast varies from colour to colour. VictorR's palette has a even balance and good contrast between light and dark and works well if used to it's full extent.

I hope you don't mind that I tried to correct your anatomy. I tried, but I couldn't get the shadows to show the colour use the way Ryu was at the time. Was on a roll I guess.

Keep it up.

[Draco9898]

Wow, snake, that's awesome! That advice is really good too...keep it up

[Feron]

LOL.  If your gonna make an edit or a piece to show someone tecnique/improvements - then the edit generally should be better than the original, no?

Snake - awesome edits, Victor should be able to learn a lot from these.

[Panda]

Feron: No need to be rude like that. At least he tried to point out some errors, maybe not in the best way nor with the level you were expecting, but your behavior isn't acceptable, so consider yourself warned.

Btw nice edits snake.

[niceidiot]

LOL.  If your gonna make an edit or a piece to show someone tecnique/improvements - then the edit generally should be better than the original, no?

I don't care what ANY of you say, this is my next T-Shirt.  Nothing will ever bring me joy like this piece!  NOTHING!  I want to see it everyday.

Whew....

[tomster 785]

umm WTH are you talking about, do you mean mine is bad or mine is good

[niceidiot]

I am not passing any value judgement on it.  I am only saying that I truely, and this is no joke, love it. 


In my opinion it cannot be made better.

[tomster 785]

uhhhmm... glad you like it

[Gil]

People, can we please get on topic again?

[Meta|Fox]

Told ya this would get Thread HiJacked....

sigh, i think every thing that needs to be changed has been mentioned and portrayed through snakes edit, look at that carefully and see what you can learn.

[VictorR]

Wow!! Your edit was really good..I saw the muscles I missed and the shading..Really good!! Thanks for the help!!

[.TakaM]

might as well post this

always enjoyed watching it on the snes and its still pretty nice today.

I dont have much to offer because Im not very good with anatomy either, but the animated pixelart above I think pretty clearly defines good exagerated anatomy..
so yeah, take away what you will and keep at it.

[Gil]

Ewww, rag-doll animation 

[.TakaM]

aw its not that bad, its a pretty large piece and wouldve taken ages to animate properly

[Ryumaru]

plus the quality of it makes it less horrible.

[ptoing]

Trivia fact: The Ryu animation in that version of SF2 on the SNES took up a quarter of the cartridge.

(It had more that that tho, fireball at the end and stuff, i guess most of you know it)

[tomster 785]

wow thats two this time that have hijacked this topic

[Skull]

I am a Street Fighter Fan.
This makes me cry.

Your giant flaw is anatmony and muslce definition, it looks barely like a human, either, - the top image has cheese strings for arms. You need to look at images, action men, even yourself to see the basic muscles.
On another note, Hadukens are balls of fire, basically, not that streched.


..awesome fact ptoing.

[ptoing]

Skull: You should not crit an "edit" or whatever art is posted in a thread if it's not by the original starter (or some kind of groupthread going on like activities), only leads to more derailment.

And it's Hadouken, which i think means "way of the fire fist"

[Skull]

Skull: You should not crit an "edit" or whatever art is posted in a thread if it's not by the original starter (or some kind of groupthread going on like activities), only leads to more derailment.

I see your point, but I was more so talking about both images, I just happened to quote that image as I was too lazy to scroll to the top of the page. 

And if I recall, I remember the translation being Wave Motion Attack. Or Wave Motion Fist..  Not a fireball at all, is it? 

[tomster 785]

the only fire move would be dragon punch (or whatever it's called )

[snake]

Skull: Wave motion fist or directly translated: Surge fist.

the only fire move would be dragon punch (or whatever it's called )

If you're referring to an attack where the opponent catches fire, then yes, the 'Dragon-punch', or to be more correct, the Shoryuken or Rising Dragon Fist is the only Ruy/Ken attack to cause burns. (An uppercut attack that comes in 7 different forms)

Hadouken attacks from Wiki:

- Hadouken/Surge Fist
- Shakunetsu Hadouken/Blazing Surge Fist
- Shinkuu Hadouken/Vacuum Surge Fist
- Gou Hadouken/Great Surge Fist
- Zankuu Hadouken/Air Cutting Surge Fist
- Tenma Gou Zankuu/Heavenly Demon Surge Air Destroyer
- Denjin Hadouken/Electromagnetic Surge Fist
  And Dan's -Gadouken and -Shinkuu Gadouken

None of witch cause burn damage.

However, if you were drawing a Hadouken and not a Shoryuken... it still looks like a burst of fire.

I reckon what you were aiming for was the Marvel Vs. Capcom version of the Shinkuu Hadouken, where it looked like a giant laser type attack, rather then the energy ball like the Hadouken or Gou Hadouken, but I hope you can see why people say fireball as this doesn't look like any Hadouken attack I can find.

Regarding the Ruy SF2 animation: That's got to be the stiffest Martial-arts uniform I've ever seen. I guess Ruy can't afford fabric softener 

Ok. I hope we can end this fireball discussion and get the topic back on track. I suggest we start a new topic if crits are to be made to Tom's Ruy.

[Helm]

Regarding the Ruy SF2 animation: That's got to be the stiffest Martial-arts uniform I've ever seen. I guess Ruy can't afford fabric softener

he just never, ever washes that outfit.

[Skull]

Regarding the Ruy SF2 animation: That's got to be the stiffest Martial-arts uniform I've ever seen. I guess Ruy can't afford fabric softener

he just never, ever washes that outfit.

I believe he does, He just lives a simple traveling life..

And on the note of burn damage, I do recall a normal Hadouken being Down, Right + Punch, but an actual fireball being cast with Left, Down, Right + Punch.. it was actual fire colours.

[Xion]

WTF? This topic has soo far derailed, people.

[hawken]

Ewww, rag-doll animation 

rag-doll isn't animation, thats the point.

[ptoing]

Ewww, rag-doll animation 

rag-doll isn't animation, thats the point.

True, and calling that Ryu animation rag-doll is silly. It's just made with several massive stitched together sprites, prolly background layers even to make it easier to animate. More like cutout animation.

[Gil]

That's what I meant, my terminology just doesn't really cut it. You know what I mean though 

[Helm]

I hope Victor takes heed of the once-again-excellent advice by Snake, and returns with a newer edit, so this thread can resume it's normal course.