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General Discussion / Re: Stepping back as a mod
« on: August 10, 2018, 11:01:43 pm »
Helm, I don't care or mind your interpretation of what defines these offenses and how they are punishable.
We have seen the rampant violence and destruction of the politics you advocated, and what people were unfairly destroyed.
There is no reason to trust your judgment on this, especially not yours, but at any case not yours more than others.
You are not the community. Only part of it. Well there's not much left of that for sure. So I guess it really is just you and your compatriots now.
And it was you again, who escalated this drama and restructuring over what is probably minor offenses. Fits your profile.
You will never live down the shame of having advocated Social Justice. I was actually willing to let you off the hook, but not anymore. Better ban me now too.
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Indigo, yet you reinstate a mod that made it a point in the past of bringing politics into this.
That's why I mentioned it. It wasn't me who brought up Social Justice. It was Helm. For years. And you stood by.
It is him who made politics enough of an issue to threaten the main forum yet again, this change was moved by threatening the forum content.
That the issue is such that people like Crow and Cyangmou feel compelled to leave, tells me all I need to know about this.
Talk about straw man btw. And I find it amusing you found offense in these "insults" that were obviously tongue in cheek.
That again casts doubt on the judgment of these things. But whatever.
I wonder how voluntary this disassociation for solution then really was for all sides involved.
And if you are to point around fingers with accusing bigotry, it is only fair to mention the legacy of Social Justice in the forum,
by those driving the changes forward now. If you slander the discord crowd, as a given reason for the problem, then the other side bears mention too.
If nothing else then as a reminder for going forward, to prevent that politics is only considered politics if it doesn't further Far Left motives.
And all the other parts of what I critisized remain the same on point also.
As far as it concerns the future of the place, I don't even think it's a good idea to remove these conversations.
I doubt your evaluation of what makes other media places attractive takes that into account.
You seem to think this issue is already cleared and over. well I beg to differ.
What does it even mean that what I am talking about has no place here?
Who are you to decide? Maybe I want to talk about it here? Maybe others too?
I actually do think it is related to discussions on art community.
So you don't, and you are an administrator making the rules,
and what community members like me think doesn't matter in this new age.
None of those conversations were even public for the rest of us to see
I suppose to save us from the drama? Or to cut the rest of the community out?
because guys like me obviously are not part of "we", regardless of our own contributions.
Well, I suppose you consider having done the most around here,
and what I think and have to say doesn't matter to your new vision.
Well, I suppose that goes alright, you can have it.
Whatever you can make of it with that mindset.
Keep "restructuring" and "modernizing" away.
I certainly wouldn't want to ruin your virtuous efforts.
We have seen the rampant violence and destruction of the politics you advocated, and what people were unfairly destroyed.
There is no reason to trust your judgment on this, especially not yours, but at any case not yours more than others.
You are not the community. Only part of it. Well there's not much left of that for sure. So I guess it really is just you and your compatriots now.
And it was you again, who escalated this drama and restructuring over what is probably minor offenses. Fits your profile.
You will never live down the shame of having advocated Social Justice. I was actually willing to let you off the hook, but not anymore. Better ban me now too.
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Indigo, yet you reinstate a mod that made it a point in the past of bringing politics into this.
That's why I mentioned it. It wasn't me who brought up Social Justice. It was Helm. For years. And you stood by.
It is him who made politics enough of an issue to threaten the main forum yet again, this change was moved by threatening the forum content.
That the issue is such that people like Crow and Cyangmou feel compelled to leave, tells me all I need to know about this.
Talk about straw man btw. And I find it amusing you found offense in these "insults" that were obviously tongue in cheek.
That again casts doubt on the judgment of these things. But whatever.
I wonder how voluntary this disassociation for solution then really was for all sides involved.
And if you are to point around fingers with accusing bigotry, it is only fair to mention the legacy of Social Justice in the forum,
by those driving the changes forward now. If you slander the discord crowd, as a given reason for the problem, then the other side bears mention too.
If nothing else then as a reminder for going forward, to prevent that politics is only considered politics if it doesn't further Far Left motives.
And all the other parts of what I critisized remain the same on point also.
As far as it concerns the future of the place, I don't even think it's a good idea to remove these conversations.
I doubt your evaluation of what makes other media places attractive takes that into account.
You seem to think this issue is already cleared and over. well I beg to differ.
What does it even mean that what I am talking about has no place here?
Who are you to decide? Maybe I want to talk about it here? Maybe others too?
I actually do think it is related to discussions on art community.
So you don't, and you are an administrator making the rules,
and what community members like me think doesn't matter in this new age.
None of those conversations were even public for the rest of us to see
I suppose to save us from the drama? Or to cut the rest of the community out?
because guys like me obviously are not part of "we", regardless of our own contributions.
Well, I suppose you consider having done the most around here,
and what I think and have to say doesn't matter to your new vision.
Well, I suppose that goes alright, you can have it.
Whatever you can make of it with that mindset.
Keep "restructuring" and "modernizing" away.
I certainly wouldn't want to ruin your virtuous efforts.