I tried to visualize the skeleton like how Night showed in his awesome edit in datmuffinman's thread. (thanks Night)
You're welcome.
Learning the skeleton is a huge first step in learning anatomy and building a figure without reference; so I'm glad to see that (I'd suggest you study the skeleton carefully, piece by piece, to get a greater understanding of what its structure is like.
In regards to the connection of the arm at that point; forgive me if you already knew this, it's a little hard to tell from the sketch, but the humerus (upper arm bone) connects only to the scapula and does not ever touch the clavicle (the scapula does connect to the clavicle, though).
On a side-note, the pelvis in men tends to be longer and narrower than in women.
Here's an edit like the one in the other thread, maybe it will give you some insight.
@32, thank you
^_^ I understand the shoulder area better, and the balance issue is also really helpful.
@Night ffffffffffffff thank you isn't enough
I'm also glad that I had somewhat the right idea in a few areas. I just need to fill in the mysteries and complexities so there's no ambiguity. This is really hard for me since I have a very weak grasp on drawing structure and perspective but I think the skeleton is good practice there as well.
Explaining how the humerus doesn't connect to the clavicle really helps. the scapula clavicle and humerus all link at the ball joint, but i need to pay attention to what actually attaches to what.
I'm impressed how both of you could pinpoint issues that are admittedly hard to see in a crude sketch. Thanks again. Will work hard to improve it.
I've decided a thing that is hindering my progress is spending too much time on detail, detail that is placed on top of gaps in my knowledge. I've decided to simplify for the time being, so that i can build on top of a better foundation. I'll probably keep redrawing him over and over until I can get the balance, forms, and joints and simplified anatomy to a stronger level.