@ Helm: I think I should rephrase. What I meant by hobbyists was people who like to look around and post some simple things perhaps, but don't take pixeling as serious as the other group does. The other group studies the greatness of this art and how to use different techniques to achieve different outcomes. That's the group (what a meant with "professiona") I think you belong to. But the thing I want to say is that the latter is not the ONLY group that is allowed to participate in this forum. So as the forum rules apply to both groups, the first group should be treated the same as the last, for they are equal and by no means will the "professional" group have the rights to take down the (what I called) "hobbyists" group.
ahem...
there are professional artists here. professional artists work for different companies either free lance or fulltime. They create graphics for paid/commercial games. There are a select few here that are on that professional level.
then there are the hobbyists.
a hobbyist is a person who persues an activity. a person who persues is someone who strives, trys to gain, and or accomplish. By these terms its meaning people who are wanting to get better with their art, with no true real purpose other than fun/amusment. this group practically applies to nearly everyone here. People come here to post their work to improve and get better. they ask for crits, suggestions and ideas. By asking for such crits, the person begins to learn the different techniques. They look at other people who post here and see what they have done for any ideas for themselves.
By giving a true critique you break down the process of another and analyze.
so when you say
What I meant by hobbyists was people who like to look around and post some simple things perhaps, but don't take pixeling as serious as the other group does. The other group studies the greatness of this art and how to use different techniques to achieve different outcomes.
it confuses me.
the remainder of the population appears to me to be the one time posters.. the lurkers.. and the trouble makers.
im pretty sure katakus is doing this as a hobby, because it seems to be an interst of his outside of regular life and he is not being paid.
please understand what you are even talking about before trying to argue a point. It is very difficult to take this for its full intention when it is not even stated correctly.
personally, i feel this thread is beinging to lose focus.
Iv been watching for awhile and what i can see is Helm being singled out and bashed for nothing very seriouse, and that this is beginning to turn into an arguement/flame war