AuthorTopic: I have no idea if this posted already but here I go.. Plant Sprite [WIP] (Read 7397 times)

Yokai90 · **on:** April 03, 2016, 01:05:56 am

I need a critique- (and I highly apologize if I posted this already I'm rather new and i'm super confused because it keeps giving me this error about my words not being typed in corresponding to my post))

And for a problem of mine I find that I have trouble working with 50x50 to 100x100 format and this is 200x200 format. Could I perhaps have some advice and help for those sizes?

kalphablue · **Reply #1 on:** April 03, 2016, 03:32:47 pm

Is there any way to upload the original sized image? You've resized it to be quite large.

Yokai90 · **Reply #2 on:** April 03, 2016, 04:36:24 pm

Unfortunetly No;;
I don't have the original 100x100;;

I apologize for the inconvenience.
I guess it is kinda too big for a sprite image? ^^;

DracoDragon42 · **Reply #3 on:** April 03, 2016, 05:08:11 pm

what do you mean by 100x100 and 200x200 because your image is 10 by 23 pixels, even though it is scaled up

Yokai90 · **Reply #4 on:** April 03, 2016, 09:51:46 pm

Ohhh. When I resized it said it was about 200x200 in size.
My bad;;
I guess I thought it was 200x200 and wasn't looking at it right;;
Would it be better then to not just scale it up close like that then?
Idk my process of making pixel art is I work with an average 300x300 first sketch and resize it to a smaller size , but most of the time for simpler things I just make start with a outline.
Then I work add the darkest color first shade dithering and in that process I zoom in and out a lot and I guess to me up close with the sprites look better than its original image and usually I take a picture with that and edit in Photoshop to make it the new size and transparent.

I guess what I'm asking is should I work with the original size and keep it that way or is it okay to back up a certain degree, take a picture of that and use that?

DracoDragon42 · **Reply #5 on:** April 03, 2016, 10:06:35 pm

These forums have a built in zooming system, just click the image to zoom in. Also please post the original (not scaled up) version so that we can do edits and stuff easier. Also your process is fine and it looks great!

Yokai90 · **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2016, 02:08:15 am

Thank you for letting me know about the zoom in feature and all that, also thank you for the compliment and reassurance!

Update: I actually re-did it the plant sprite this time and re-sized it way down so hopefully it should be smaller this time-

rocifier · **Reply #7 on:** April 04, 2016, 03:52:27 am

They mean you should draw it at the size so that you can edit pixel by pixel. People typically zoom in to do this temporarily in software instead of permanently saving the canvas at various sizes. Posting it so the pixel size is 1:1 will help people to do edits on it. Don't worry if it looks really tiny, we can just click it on the forum to zoom in on it.

Yokai90 · **Reply #8 on:** April 04, 2016, 07:24:33 pm

Alright here we go, heres the original size!

(Probably should've added this as well earlier..))This time I changed the design and added a technique I just learned called anti-aliasing unfortunately from the distance I do feel the shading is off

rocifier · **Reply #9 on:** April 05, 2016, 08:21:20 am

Ok, so what plant is it?

Yokai90 · **Reply #10 on:** April 05, 2016, 09:25:18 am

I was trying to make a tulip seed .o.

rocifier · **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2016, 11:47:33 am

I see. Well I don't know what happened but it's got progressively worse. I suggest forget AA for now, its just for polishing finished parts usually inside a sprite. We need to work on the form.

Look at this photo:

Beautiful. Why? Let's observe what we see. The emphasis is on the green shoots.. the fresh new life which is being born. The light is hitting the green shoots and providing some subsurface scattering, moreso near the bulb. The effect being that the green shoots very slightly emit light compared with the bulb (the light actually bounces around inside and then out so it only appears that way, whereas light is largely absorbed when it hits the bulb). Some of the top of the bulbs are a little translucent so you can actually see the shoots inside. The colour is distinctly light yellowish-brown with tints of green underneath, not red.

The shoots that come out don't curl at all, they go straight up and only bend outwards up to a 15 degree angle in a radial fan with two of the shoots remaining centralised. Effectively they form wrapped around each other and spread and straighten as they extend vertically. They are approximately 4 shoots coming from each bulb. The length of each shoot is roughly the same as its surrounding shoots but with variations of up to 10%. Each shoot is pointed at the tip only. The colour of the shoots graduate fairly linearly from the luminescent lime green at their roots to a more olive green near the top, which has more red and less green in the hue, and therefore also a reduction in value since green holds most of the brightness in light (eg. our monitors). However about half the shoots (randomly) then transition back to green at the tip but don't reach all the way back to the bright green of their roots. The point where the shoots sprout from on the tip of the bulb is essentially a ring of darker brown which looks burst, and this dark value contrasts sharply against the bright green shoots erupting from the bulb.

I'll leave the bulb mostly as an exercise for you to observe, probably from other photographs or better - in the palm of your own hand.

Yokai90 · **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2016, 04:29:54 pm

Thank you so much .o.
I definitely see the points made out on the shading and the colors that the tulip has. Again thank you so much!

Chadtech · **Reply #13 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:07:41 pm

I edited your last revision a bit. Your drawing is really... weird? Not in a good way, but still very interesting. I am curious as to how you made it, and your thought process.

Your drawing is strangely square. I rounded out the edges. One thing I found interesting about your drawing was how the shading apparently extended beyond the edge of the seed itself. It looks cool. It seems like you understand shading really well, but the very edge of your drawing could use some better/different anti-aliasing I think, which I guess is a different technique than shading. Then I redrew the stem, and put a little brown spec where the stem meets the seed. I think I improved the stem (maybe you agree) largely by softening the color gradient, and then removing darker colors from the top edges of the leafs.

Anyway, cool stuff, keep it up!

Yokai90 · **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2016, 12:04:14 pm

Im glad you think my drawing is interesting! At least not in a weird way. To be honest when I was going in the process I looked at a reference of a tulip seed without the stem? And at the same time I was looking at a reference of a tulip sees without the stem and it had a pint with a sorta circular body? I tried to first shade it and of course as I stated earlier I had trouble with shading such a small Sprite and decided to try and shade it dark first and I also tried to blend everything hence such a dark color;; with the highlights I added a yellowish mixed in and I took some colors from my previous tulip seed and did a sorta dithery technique with it.

Also thank you for the compliments! It makes me feel a little more relieved that my shading is really good as I kinda make a big deal out of it lol. I also unsteady and a bit more of your anti-aliasing? I'm still new to it ^^; I also do agree with the stem and I like your recreation that you edited on!

Yokai90 · **Reply #15 on:** April 15, 2016, 12:35:46 pm

Just an update. In order to understand a bit better on how to draw the bulb better and color I did a study on it.

I used my prismacolor color pencils in order to acheive the yellowish brown and to better understand.

How does this look now?

If possible could I scan this and use this as a sketch and then pixelate?

devlon · **Reply #16 on:** April 25, 2016, 11:03:56 am

It's one of my favorite plants. So easy to keep happy, and a very fast grower. Does require a good bit of maintenance though, or else it will literally take over an entire tanks

Yokai90 · **Reply #17 on:** June 02, 2016, 04:31:39 am

Im so sorry to have not replied in a while at all, but if anyone's still taking critiques-

V.3 Revised completely of this tulip seed- no A-A at all and I've studied basically re-drawn this tulip a good couple of times in this long span finally have had enough time to re-do it.
And its color palate is not so dark now aha.

Ashedragon · **Reply #18 on:** June 02, 2016, 05:32:43 am

It looks much better! However, it's not quite there. You seem to still have the shoots curving outwards instead of going straight up at slight angles like in the reference picture.

Koyot1222 · **Reply #19 on:** June 02, 2016, 08:00:37 am

Ive used similar palette to Your first image.

Yokai90 · **Reply #20 on:** June 02, 2016, 05:34:05 pm

Alright! I just got each of your messages and I understand! I'll work on re-editing the sprouts and as well for future reference-
@Koyot1222- May I ask on how you got the color palate so simple? Im not the best expert at shading-

Xer0bot · **Reply #21 on:** June 06, 2016, 05:00:08 am

I've seen these grow underground they're like little onions aren't they ?
but come to think of it it does look juicy.

Yokai90 · **Reply #22 on:** June 06, 2016, 06:01:56 pm

Hahaha don't they?

Honestly when I drew one for my last art project of the semester people wouldn't stop calling it an onion!

Yokai90 · **Reply #23 on:** June 06, 2016, 08:38:18 pm

V.4
Toned down the saturation so it won't cause an eyeburn and made it look more earthy, changed the leaves to point tip upwards as well, as change the colors to look more leafy and toned that down too!

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