Poll

Whose smiley templates are your favourite?

Turbo (1)
3 (1.2%)
Turbo (2)
1 (0.4%)
alkaline
4 (1.5%)
setz
0 (0%)
Pixelfish
2 (0.8%)
ejay (1)
0 (0%)
ejay (2)
2 (0.8%)
Presley (1)
0 (0%)
Presley (2)
1 (0.4%)
junkboy (1)
29 (11.2%)
junkboy (2)
9 (3.5%)
robotriot
2 (0.8%)
philipptr
1 (0.4%)
Feron (1)
0 (0%)
Feron (2)
0 (0%)
Gil
1 (0.4%)
The B.O.B (1)
2 (0.8%)
The B.O.B (2)
1 (0.4%)
dragonrc (1)
0 (0%)
dragonrc (2)
0 (0%)
dragonrc (3)
1 (0.4%)
miascugh
0 (0%)
ptoing
13 (5%)
Hishnak
3 (1.2%)
Xion (1)
2 (0.8%)
Xion (2)
0 (0%)
Xion (3)
1 (0.4%)
Xion (4)
3 (1.2%)
Xion (5)
4 (1.5%)
Xion (6)
0 (0%)
Xion (7)
0 (0%)
Xion (8 )
1 (0.4%)
Kclic
0 (0%)
Rydin
1 (0.4%)
Draco9898 (1)
0 (0%)
Draco9898 (2)
0 (0%)
Lawrence
16 (6.2%)
AdamAtomic
4 (1.5%)
skeddles
5 (1.9%)
Monsoon2D (1)
5 (1.9%)
Monsoon2D (2)
17 (6.5%)
Adarias
0 (0%)
Pixel32 (1)
0 (0%)
Pixel32 (2)
0 (0%)
Pixel32 (3)
0 (0%)
fil_razorback
0 (0%)
Noveroth
6 (2.3%)
Ensellitis
2 (0.8%)
Saxamaphone (1)
0 (0%)
Saxamaphone (2)
0 (0%)
Alevice (1)
0 (0%)
Alevice (2)
0 (0%)
Flame
0 (0%)
Panda
15 (5.8%)
Alucard (1)
1 (0.4%)
Alucard (2)
2 (0.8%)
1st (1)
0 (0%)
1st (2)
0 (0%)
Chalk
7 (2.7%)
snake (1)
5 (1.9%)
snake (2)
14 (5.4%)
snake (3)
1 (0.4%)
snake (4)
9 (3.5%)
RosenCrantz
2 (0.8%)
Faktablad
13 (5%)
Dusty
0 (0%)
Perciv@l (1)
15 (5.8%)
Perciv@l (2)
15 (5.8%)
CODEONE
0 (0%)
8bitty
8 (3.1%)
Muffin
9 (3.5%)
Xooxer
2 (0.8%)

Total Members Voted: 100

Voting closed: June 10, 2007, 09:36:24 am

AuthorTopic: Smile 2007 - The Voting  (Read 26546 times)

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Smile 2007 - The Voting

on: June 05, 2007, 07:53:01 am
First of all, thanks to all those who took their time to make a smiley template for the first part of the activity.

As for the voting, here is how it will work
- Each of you will have 3 votes.
- The winner of this poll will count as 1 vote for the mod poll (so if you are a mod, please vote on the one at the admin boards). In case of a tie, those tied will count as a vote each.
- The overall winner template will be the one with more votes after counting all votes from the mod poll + 1 vote from this poll

Hopefully that's clear enough.
The poll will run for 5 days.


So without further ado, here are the entries:


- Turbo (1)


- Turbo (2)


- alkaline


- setz


- Pixelfish


- ejay (1)


- ejay (2)


- Presley (1)


- Presley (2)


- junkboy (1)


- junkboy (2)


- robotriot


- philipptr


- Feron (1)


- Feron (2)


- Gil


- The B.O.B. (1 - Purple splat) (2 - Yellow splat)


- dragonrc (1)


- dragonrc (2)


- dragonrc (3)


- miascugh


- ptoing


- Hishnak


- Xion (1)


- Xion (2)


- Xion (3)


- Xion (4 - Bold circle) (5 - Bold square) (6 - no outlines) (7 - Low color circle) (8 - Low color square)


- Kclic


- Rydin


- Draco9898 (1)


- Draco9898 (2)


- Lawrence


- AdamAtomic


- skeddles


- Monsoon2D (1)


- Monsoon2D (2)


- Adarias


- Pixel32 (1 - Square) (2 - Circle)


- Pixel32 (3)


- fil_razorback


- Noveroth


- Ensellitis


- Saxamaphone (1)


- Saxamaphone (2)


- Alevice (1)


- Alevice (2)


- Flame


- Panda


- Alucard (1)


- Alucard (2)


- 1st (1)


- 1st (2)


- Chalk


- snake (1 - Circle) (2 - Tilted squares) (3 - No outlines) (4 - blob)


- RosenCrantz


- Faktablad


- Dusty


- Perciv@l (1 - Outlines) (2 - No outlines)


- CODEONE


- 8bitty


- Muffin


- Xooxer
« Last Edit: June 05, 2007, 09:38:58 am by Panda »

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #1 on: June 05, 2007, 10:48:03 pm
Wow, even with three votes, it was a tough choice. So many good ones!

Hey, can we post here? Seems kinda empty. Or am I just quick on the draw?

If so, FP!

If not, sorry.

Anyway, like I said, everyone's done so good. Tough choice.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #2 on: June 05, 2007, 10:57:34 pm

- The winner of this poll will count as 1 vote for the mod poll (so if you are a mod, please vote on the one at the admin boards). In case of a tie, those tied will count as a vote each.
- The overall winner template will be the one with more votes after counting all votes from the mod poll + 1 vote from this poll

Hopefully that's clear enough.


Pfff...So, one vote for the entire community? with all due respect, but whats the point then? Basically its just you modders choosing...kinda takes away from the "community" part of the activity.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #3 on: June 05, 2007, 11:39:42 pm

- The winner of this poll will count as 1 vote for the mod poll (so if you are a mod, please vote on the one at the admin boards). In case of a tie, those tied will count as a vote each.
- The overall winner template will be the one with more votes after counting all votes from the mod poll + 1 vote from this poll

Hopefully that's clear enough.


Pfff...So, one vote for the entire community? with all due respect, but whats the point then? Basically its just you modders choosing...kinda takes away from the "community" part of the activity.
I was considering bringing that up.. on one hand, the staff are all experienced pixellers and will choose the best set (whichever that may be :-*)

but on the other, I would've had the community poll account for half the decision, not one vote for the *real* poll
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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #4 on: June 06, 2007, 12:59:29 am
Yeah, I'd say 40% community, 60% mods...

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #5 on: June 06, 2007, 06:16:13 am
Well, if you have anything against how this have been set up, don't vote at all, I couldn't care the less.
Originally, when Indigo planned the activity, the winner template was going to be solely picked by the mods, but now you can make a difference.
The mod team is made out of like 10 or so people, and not all of them are active right now (so far only 5 voted), so a single vote will change the whole thing.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2007, 06:18:42 am by Panda »

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #6 on: June 06, 2007, 07:21:49 am
Well, if you have anything against how this have been set up, don't vote at all, I couldn't care the less.
no offense Noe, but I think that's a pretty bad attitude to have..
To be fair, the community has done most of the work and it seems rather unwarranted to be as conceited to advise anyone who objects to not even bother with what little say they have
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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #7 on: June 06, 2007, 07:41:05 am
TakaM, only one set will be picked in the end, therefore as far as members doing work, only one of them will be rewarded regardless of what the procedure is to pick that single one. It doesn't take time to vote at all, though, so you know... what you say doesn't make sense.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #8 on: June 06, 2007, 07:52:53 am
Meh, I'm grumpy when I wake up.  :mean:
But what I don't get is why people who didn't even participate are complaining.

I pretty much kept the activity the way it was originally. I thought it would be a good idea to let you take part on it, even if it was in a minimal way, so that's why I set up this. But seeing how you are reacting maybe I shouldn't have at all.

I'm not changing the activity though. The winner of this will go to the next part and the activity will carry on, as planned.
Now, after the results are up, if anyone decides to work on a different entry and makes the whole set (all 41 smileys), it will be considered for addition.

But as said, if you don't like it, don't take part on it, after all, you will be able to set the current smileys anyway.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2007, 12:25:25 pm by Panda »

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #9 on: June 06, 2007, 01:52:49 pm
Meh, I'm grumpy when I wake up.  :mean:
But what I don't get is why people who didn't even participate are complaining.

I dont see how that matters at all really, that i dont participate on a single activity doesnt mean im not part of a community.

I pretty much kept the activity the way it was originally. I thought it would be a good idea to let you take part on it, even if it was in a minimal way, so that's why I set up this. But seeing how you are reacting maybe I shouldn't have at all.

Reacting how? expressing an opinion? From your response it has become clear to me, that you guys wont be changing the voting system; Still, i *think* i can still say i find it unfair; regardless if a participated in making a fucking smilie or not.
 

And about what Helm said, i think it makes perfect sense what Takam. said, the community did make most of the work; The mayority of those smilie faces were made by users, and not modders; hence it makes perfect sense to make the community vote, and get them directly involved on the process.

But you know what?  leaving everything aside, the activity would have been more fun to if the community was more involved, and theres no reason to put on the hardass/strict mask and tell everyone to fuck off....no one is making a riot, simply putting their 2 cents on the table.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #10 on: June 06, 2007, 01:58:53 pm
It's easy to knock down the opposing view when you attribute them a 'hardass/strict mask'. Nobody likes a 'hardass/strict mask'. Nobody likes to be told to 'fuck off'. But there's no 'hardass/strict mask' and no telling people to 'fuck off' going on.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #11 on: June 06, 2007, 02:14:04 pm
The mod team is made out of like 10 or so people, and not all of them are active right now (so far only 5 voted), so a single vote will change the whole thing.

then what is the point in having mods that don't do anything...

I think the community should count for more than one vote.  I agree the mods will see a more practical side of what will work best with readability, and fit with the forum, but this is a community board, and I think theres a lot more than 5 members of the public who are going to use these smileys.

Just seems a bit stupid that 20 people could want one smiley but 5 mods want a different one....  We all have to use them (if we chose), why do mods have priority?

Krut - you seem to exagerate things out of proportion, and a few of your posts seem to attack the mods.  Please don't otherwise they'll set their goats on your ass, and that is one fight i do not wish to see...

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #12 on: June 06, 2007, 02:53:00 pm
then what is the point in having mods that don't do anything...

If that isn't a rhetorical question, here's the answer: none, which is why if after some months some mods are still inactive, they will be removed from the roster, and new ones recruited. This has happened a few times already.

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Just seems a bit stupid that 20 people could want one smiley but 5 mods want a different one....  We all have to use them (if we chose), why do mods have priority?

Because it's their forum, obviously.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #13 on: June 06, 2007, 03:01:08 pm
Lighten up guys!

P.S. snake 4 is the best.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #14 on: June 06, 2007, 05:27:52 pm
Helm:
I was writing a PM, but as i re-read your last post i felt it needed to be public, because; a) Is a public issue at hand, and b) i tought that my words were being taken too literally, maybe missunderstood, when all i was trying to say in the first place in a very respectful manner (read first post)  is that it didnt seem right to exclude the community like that, arbitrary at the very least.

I think the motives were clear;  basically that the users made practically all the smilies, that its the same user data base that construct and breathe life into pixelation as the very escence, they will be using it; and most basically than all of that, it would have been more fun.

Im confident in the matureness of the mods, that if i say "fuck", they wouldnt come jumping out the window crying, because theres nothing disturbingly wrong with that word, theres no reason to be so rigid and serious all the time.

And about the strict/hardass mask, well, thats how it feels when you read a response like Panda´s  with stuff like "i couldnt care less if you agree or whatever", thats not the response of someone that listens, thats a rigid/strict response....i dont see how you cant think the same.

But this, ticked me off man, and i say it in a very personal level towards you.


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Just seems a bit stupid that 20 people could want one smiley but 5 mods want a different one....  We all have to use them (if we chose), why do mods have priority?

Because it's their forum, obviously.

I mean what kind of response is that? ...i was under the impression that there was a community thing going on.... If you dont value the users input, then fuck, make a personal myspace, and all you modders can play house all you want.
Thats not the original spirit of pixelation, this forum lives trough the comments and input of their users, of mutual help and learning, just like you have said it before; Pixelation is not Tsu, not Pep, and certainly not Helm and rest of the modders.

Do you guys have been a very important part on this? FUCK yeah, ill be the first to acknowledge, and recognize you guys for your labors.

So, it really strikes me ass odd, that YOU take that position.

My 2 cents, on something i feel had to be said, maybe not on the best manner like you guys said on my use of the F* word, and whatever, and if they are my last words here, so be it...as long as you guys at least take this in consideration what i said...because eventually, this could end up killing this community, that believe it or not, i too have very fond memories of.

-Feron: Im sorry you feel that way, im not trying in any instance to attack the mods now, nor i have in my previous posts, rest confident however, that they will prolly let me know if i did something wrong. Its been a while since ive been here, when they threw me out of here last time, wasnt on the best conditions on my part, thats clear; but when i joined here, was with a clear intention of helping out people, just like i was helped in my start, and just like i helped while i was here.

And in the words of Forrest Gump; "thats all i have to say about that".

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #15 on: June 06, 2007, 06:11:35 pm
If this issue is important to the community, it would make sense to re-adjust any future votes to involve the community more.
I could see how it may be unprofessional or not in the best practice to interupt the current voteing for such a change described though. I hope you all agree, and that such concernes be voiced prior to an actual vote taking place so that there can be time for adjustments to be made if they are necessary. And if there is ever anything unclear, there's nothing wrong with asking. Pixelation would be nothing without the members whom visit it, so the mods definitely listen.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #16 on: June 06, 2007, 06:19:53 pm
I dont think the issue itself is of a particular relevance; it was mostly the fact of arbitrarialy excluding the comunity and the response offered.
I also dont think that the "i wont listen/dont care" attitude has been a common situation either, thats why the endevour of Helm and Pan striked me as odd.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #17 on: June 06, 2007, 06:31:17 pm
This is my own opinion, but I think their responses were based upon a preconcieved belief that there was much distaste to how the current voteing is being handled, which may be true. And so their reply was built upon frustration or surprise since they had no expectation of such a response.
This is why I suggest these concerns be brought up prior to any voteing occuring, so that re-adjustments may be made to satisfy the community better. Doing this, everyone can better handle things.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #18 on: June 06, 2007, 07:09:52 pm
I mean what kind of response is that? ...i was under the impression that there was a community thing going on....

The community didn't choose the skin colors of this forum, or the banner, or the way it's structured. That's why the smileys are a bit more in the hands of the moderators than the userbase. Because we want to keep the forum looking good. This is largely thankless, like most of the modrating duties I and others have been burdening themselves with for oh, the last 4 years or something? So please relax and see where I'm coming from. You're kicking up a lot of dust over smileys of all things. Why does it disturb you that the modration has a stronger voice than the users when it comes to matters of aesthetics? Are you paying the server costs? The forum is used by the users, but it belongs to the administration. As such, the administration may change how it looks when it suits it. That it asks the userbase on input on things does not mean any different. People read the thread and decided to make smileys because they like making things, it was never implied that we'd use more than one set, and which set would be mostly up to the administration. In the end, only one set will be used (this time around, and that's a 'probably' there) so even if the userbase chose it, the rest of the hard work by the other people wouldn't be met with inclusion. But is it wasted work? It never is when one practises and becomes better.

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If you dont value the users input, then fuck, make a personal myspace, and all you modders can play house all you want.

Pipe down, we do. Their word is not law when it comes to how the forum looks, is all. A lot of people wanted the old pixelation blue for sentimental value, for example, and that was absolutely murder for critique purposes, so we didn't keep it. If we had put it up for a poll, we'd be swimming in blue, baby.

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Thats not the original spirit of pixelation, this forum lives trough the comments and input of their users, of mutual help and learning, just like you have said it before; Pixelation is not Tsu, not Pep, and certainly not Helm and rest of the modders.

I'd appreciate it if you didn't dictate the 'spirit of pixelation' to me, because it becomes rapidly insulting. You're not trying to understand the other point of view, you're just lashing out. Please calm down and try to consider alternate points of view on the subject. I've been here a long time and I'm not perverting the spirit of pixelation, I'm working quite hard, for nothing, to perserve it. So respect more, shout less.

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Do you guys have been a very important part on this? FUCK yeah, ill be the first to acknowledge, and recognize you guys for your labors.

How, by lip service and then striking out the first second you seem to percieve a problem in your two days being around after a many years' worth of absence? This isn't very fair, not to mention calm and rational of you.

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So, it really strikes me ass odd, that YOU take that position.

Which position? That the forum will not look as the userbase wants it to look, but ultimately as the administration wants to? Yes on that one. That is my position.

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My 2 cents, on something i feel had to be said, maybe not on the best manner like you guys said on my use of the F* word, and whatever, and if they are my last words here, so be it...as long as you guys at least take this in consideration what i said...because eventually, this could end up killing this community, that believe it or not, i too have very fond memories of.

Yes, please stop swearing, you can make your points clearly enough without.

About killing Pixelation... hum all this internet drama about smileys will kill a community that has been around for years and years? In fact the forum has been the strongest it has ever been in many years right now, and I take a lot of pride personally for keeping the place as straight as I can and focused on artistic betterment. Some people might not agree with how things go, but a lot of people benefit and will continue to benefit. Smileys or no smileys. As long as people want to learn and want to help others with pixel art, Pixelation will be around.

So, in closing, please calm down, please be more considerate of the particulars of the situation.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2007, 07:12:29 pm by Helm »

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #19 on: June 06, 2007, 07:26:58 pm
Also, on the old pixelation we did not even have smilies to begin with :P

There are no ugly colours, only ugly combinations of colours.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #20 on: June 06, 2007, 08:12:23 pm
The community didn't choose the skin colors of this forum, or the banner, or the way it's structured. That's why the smileys are a bit more in the hands of the moderators than the userbase.

Did you make a challenge or activity that involved the comunity to create/choose the colours, banners or the way its structured? right...if you ask the participation of the community...then for christ sake take them in account. Like you said, if you ask for input/critique/whatever be prepared to receive it.

This is largely thankless, like most of the modrating duties I and others have been burdening themselves with for oh, the last 4 years or something?

I think everyone; or at least like i said previously, I acknowledge and apreciate the efforts...but come on, be realistic, what else do you want? a castle or a brand new tablet with a thank you note? You guys got the recognition on the labors you do in the minds of everyone that uses this forum.


So please relax and see where I'm coming from. You're kicking up a lot of dust over smileys of all things. Why does it disturb you that the modration has a stronger voice than the users when it comes to matters of aesthetics? Are you paying the server costs?

How come is it that if i post something, im exaggerating, agravated, histerical or whatever...while you guys could post while having an orgasm and are as calmed as rock.
Im as relaxed as i possibly could be, though... i could prolly smoke up a joint if that made you even happier Helm. This isnt about the little yellow faces man...get over it. It doesnt bother me that the administration gets to pick the aesthetics...but if you asked them, they are doing the work of creating, let them choose...im sure you can understand this isnt such a wacky idea.

The forum is used by the users, but it belongs to the administration. As such, the administration may change how it looks when it suits it. That it asks the userbase on input on things does not mean any different. People read the thread and decided to make smileys because they like making things, it was never implied that we'd use more than one set, and which set would be mostly up to the administration. In the end, only one set will be used (this time around, and that's a 'probably' there) so even if the userbase chose it, the rest of the hard work by the other people wouldn't be met with inclusion. But is it wasted work? It never is when one practises and becomes better.

How is it that you are missing the point so much... If your "job" is to create and manage the aesthetics of Pixelation (like you guys have with the banner, colours, etc), and you are forwarding that "job" to the users...then let them finish their job, you asked for input, receive it, that it... i ALSO from the start said, i wasnt saying DO this DO that, im saying what i think should be done, why are you attacking a simple opinion?.

I'd appreciate it if you didn't dictate the 'spirit of pixelation' to me, because it becomes rapidly insulting. You're not trying to understand the other point of view, you're just lashing out. Please calm down and try to consider alternate points of view on the subject. I've been here a long time and I'm not perverting the spirit of pixelation, I'm working quite hard, for nothing, to perserve it. So respect more, shout less.


Dictate? Jesus, im paraphrasing you! practically  quoting what you said... and if thats insulting to you, i can clearly see how a little word as "F*ck" shakes you up, so i wont bring up any other "bad" words.
Dont pull the "consider other points of view" (while of course im doing though) when you guys are telling us that basically "its your forum" and that "you couldnt care less" about what we do or dont do.

How, by lip service and then striking out the first second you seem to percieve a problem in your two days being around after a many years' worth of absence? This isn't very fair, not to mention calm and rational of you.

I dont know what lip service mean... but, i think that you are overeacting...im not striking against anyone, read my first post again, i merely expressed my opinion in a respectful manner... About my abscence you cant blame me (hahah actually you can), but i just wasnt around, im here now though, with good intentions and trying to do good.


Which position? That the forum will not look as the userbase wants it to look, but ultimately as the administration wants to? Yes on that one. That is my position.

Take the position of "I AM THE LAW", give the community the place it deserves...saying to the community "this is our forum and we do as we please" i think is not the right message to send.


Yes, please stop swearing, you can make your points clearly enough without.


Yeah, i know i can, i do that for a living, i just didnt realize you had the tolerance of a 5 year old catholic girl, in the way that a little F* word every 100 would impact you.

About killing Pixelation... hum all this internet drama about smileys will kill a community that has been around for years and years? In fact the forum has been the strongest it has ever been in many years right now, and I take a lot of pride personally for keeping the place as straight as I can and focused on artistic betterment. Some people might not agree with how things go, but a lot of people benefit and will continue to benefit. Smileys or no smileys. As long as people want to learn and want to help others with pixel art, Pixelation will be around.

Come on Helm...theres no need to ridiculize the situation...its not about the smileys themselves.

Also, on the old pixelation we did not even have smilies to begin with :P

Instant win of the argument, ill shut up now Ptoinger.  :P

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #21 on: June 06, 2007, 08:23:37 pm
Did you make a challenge or activity that involved the comunity to create/choose the colours, banners or the way its structured? right...if you ask the participation of the community...then for christ sake take them in account. Like you said, if you ask for input/critique/whatever be prepared to receive it.

The activity was clear. People would submit samples, there would be a choice where the userbase would have a vote, and the moderators theirs. Do you also complain when you enter a competition and a panel of judges selects the winners, not the people that participated in the competition?

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I think everyone; or at least like i said previously, I acknowledge and apreciate the efforts...but come on, be realistic, what else do you want? a castle or a brand new tablet with a thank you note?

A cake. A cake would be nice. Or cookies. Give me a woman slave, I wore my old one out.

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How come is it that if i post something, im exaggerating, agravated, histerical or whatever...while you guys could post while having an orgasm and are as calmed as rock.

Because your posts get increasingly unclear, full of swear words and ellipses that lead to nowhere?

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but if you asked them, they are doing the work of creating, let them choose...im sure you can understand this isnt such a wacky idea.

It isn't if that's the original idea. Perhaps next time this will be how it goes. This time though, the concept was clear.

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Dictate? Jesus, im paraphrasing you! practically  quoting what you said... and if thats insulting to you, i can clearly see how a little word as "F*ck" shakes you up, so i wont bring up any other "bad" words.

Yes, please don't. I'd appreciate it.

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I dont know what lip service mean... but, i think that you are overeacting...im not striking against anyone, read my first post again, i merely expressed my opinion in a respectful manner... About my abscence you cant blame me (hahah actually you can), but i just wasnt around, im here now though, with good intentions and trying to do good.

Yes, forum drama really does a lot of good.

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Yeah, i know i can, i do that for a living, i just didnt realize you had the tolerance of a 5 year old catholic girl, in the way that a little F* word every 100 would impact you.

This isn't where Krut comes home to after work, kicks off his shoes and unwinds by turetting all over the place. Please behave courteously and mind your swearing. You are in the presence of strangers that are being polite to you, be polite back.

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Come on Helm...theres no need to ridiculize the situation...its not about the smileys themselves.

Right, it's about forum drama.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #22 on: June 06, 2007, 08:37:45 pm
Can we keep on fighting for the remaining days though?

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #23 on: June 06, 2007, 08:41:18 pm
Hey Krut, relax man.

The "I couldn't care about" thing was whether you wanted to vote or not after reading what the rules.
For your information, I do care about the community, and every action I've taken since I got into the mod squad has been thought more than once before being made, pretty much after thinking from different perspectives.

For the not listening part, as far as I can tell you didn't have any suggestion to change the current thing, and instead just started complaining.
If you have any constructive ideas for it, I'm all ears, but what I won't do is just listen you whine.
If you are not happy with something, come with another solution instead of just ranting, and then I will consider it.
You want the community to be part of this activity more extensively, well, one thing that could solve that would be having both winners from the polls to go to the next part of the activity.

So yeah, you are making a fuss over nothing.
Got any complaints? Then come up with a different way to act on it (esp. if you want to be involved as a community or whatever), rather than just yelling about your disagreement.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #24 on: June 06, 2007, 08:57:23 pm
Sorry for any mess, and disregard any input of mine.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #25 on: June 06, 2007, 08:59:12 pm
Well, that was fun... :)

8bitty FTW!

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #26 on: June 06, 2007, 09:18:38 pm
wow, people are really suggestionable....Helm notes the clever idea Junkboy had of a squared emoticon in a pixel forum, and then everyone rages on about it.

I agree it is pretty clever and it's good the original author is the one getting the hype for it, but I think there are templates with better room for actual expression, which is the REAL purpose of emoticons.

Snake's really stand out, specially the "blob" template, both angry and happy emotions are very radiant in his set.

I think it's something about the cheekbone area sticking out, it can be used to emphasize both mouth and eye expressions.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #27 on: June 06, 2007, 09:48:05 pm
wow, people are really suggestionable....Helm notes the clever idea Junkboy had of a squared emoticon in a pixel forum, and then everyone rages on about it.

i don't think that is the case.  When first brainstorming shapes, square was the second that came to mind, as i'm sure it did for many people, regardless of helm's personal opinions.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #28 on: June 06, 2007, 10:32:15 pm
When I first saw the challenge, even before any entries, my first thought was "Hey, it'd be sweet if we had pixel-shaped (aka square) smileys!" Junkboy may have been the first to actually make the squileys, but I think others have pulled it off better.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #29 on: June 06, 2007, 10:51:43 pm
Panda's square smilies are obviously the best, so much expression there...

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #30 on: June 06, 2007, 11:10:43 pm
yeah I too think junk's arent the best example of squared smilies....I would go with Neveroth's, ptoing's, Xion's outline-less or one of Snake's.

I couldnt say what people were thinking before they posted their templates...but it does seem like Helm rooting for Junkboy has had an effect on the polls so far :p

Panda's are good because of the detail and whatnot, but they're so....template-ish :p I enjoy it when ther eye shapes and arrangement of face features accomodate to the emotions, panda's barely change eye shapes in completly diferent emotions....and are a little hard to read. Snake's round template is a little hard to read too.

Pixel32's pink one...Bob's and Draco's big one are kinda intruguing too...
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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #31 on: June 06, 2007, 11:17:01 pm
I'm all for junkboys huge smilies.
Lets shatter the forum tables and stretch the posts!
Does scaling an image blur it?
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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #32 on: June 07, 2007, 12:01:01 am
My favourite 3 are ptoing's, snake2, and snake4!

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #33 on: June 07, 2007, 12:37:09 am
Perciv@l (2) all the waaaaayyyy!

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #34 on: June 07, 2007, 04:13:28 am
I actually posted both for Junkboy's and Panda's. The original because he came up with it, and Panda's because I felt his were the best square ones.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #35 on: June 07, 2007, 04:22:27 am
Seriously?
I've been at far too many forums that have hideous (not implying anyone's is) square smilies just for the sake of originality :n:
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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #36 on: June 07, 2007, 04:31:42 am
Junkboy's huge smiley will be to Pixelation as the Llama icon is to Deviantart.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #37 on: June 07, 2007, 04:44:22 am
i voted Junkboy's cause i thought they were the best and 8bitty's cause i thought they were the best and Lawrence's cause i thought they were the best.
originality had nothing to do with it. i've seen square smilies before. i even did something similar to what people are suggesting a while ago (http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/2197.htm)
thanks Dogmeat!

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #38 on: June 07, 2007, 06:59:32 am
I voted for robotriot's (simple, yet kinda neat, though I would like to see the " ::)" work with it), Lawrence's (though if it wins, I want to change the AA on it) and Perciv@l's (gotta love those eyebrows)
As for my smileys, well, I did them in like 5 minutes and then messed a bit with them and made more expressions, so I guess the emotions are a bit rushed.

And for the results and all, after yesterday's arguing, is everyone ok having both winners (from this poll and mod poll) go to the next part of the activity?
Will be more work, but the more choices the better I guess.
Also, as mentioned, if anyone makes a complete set based on a different entry and all, it will be considered for addition, so if your favourite doesn't get through, you might have another chance.
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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #39 on: June 07, 2007, 10:05:25 am
I'm really surprised so many voted for my design. Thanks, I guess! I just made it really quick to get the idea out there, hoping that someone would push it further.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #40 on: June 07, 2007, 12:09:31 pm
Panda took second place, go go Panda!

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #41 on: June 08, 2007, 03:44:24 am
So...I'm sorta :-\ about both results, but you're saying that if I were to make a full set of a smiley style that I did not originate and send it to a mod, it would be considered for implementation? As in, we don't have to expand on our own set, but rather, we can expand on someone else's?

Or wait...no...maybe I'll just ask 8bitty to complete his set, because I wouldn't do it justice...

Hey 8bitty! Finish your smiley set!


.TakaM: Well, hey, I've never seen squileys before.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #42 on: June 08, 2007, 05:34:07 am
I too, formally request 8bitty to finish his set.
thanks Dogmeat!

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #43 on: June 08, 2007, 06:16:49 am
So...I'm sorta :-\ about both results, but you're saying that if I were to make a full set of a smiley style that I did not originate and send it to a mod, it would be considered for implementation? As in, we don't have to expand on our own set, but rather, we can expand on someone else's?

Or wait...no...maybe I'll just ask 8bitty to complete his set, because I wouldn't do it justice...

Hey 8bitty! Finish your smiley set!

Well, it doesn't have to be exactly someone else's, you can work on your own set or whatever. But it will be only added if all smileys are there (all expressions we have currently) + it should be easily readable (features must be recognizable straight away) + shouldn't be overly big/flashy/annoying etc.
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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #44 on: June 08, 2007, 06:56:38 am
 Junkboy, Snake and Panda for the win  ;D 

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #45 on: June 10, 2007, 04:03:14 am
Maybe have the top 5 voted go to the next round, so maybe there's a little competition? I mean, they may look good in theory now, but they might not all execute as well for all the expressions when it comes down to it.
(And I just had the idea of having a smiley 'coming out' of the forum by using transparency and such, pity it still didn't look good.)

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #46 on: June 10, 2007, 06:22:01 am
Some very good smilies, and tough decisions as a result. I'm interested to see how it turns out, and I'm sure we'll get a great result no matter whose get picked.

One thing I really wanted to point out is that as I'm writing this, Perciv@l's 2 entries, with and without outlines, have 30 votes together compared to junkboy (1)'s 29 votes. Perciv@l's 2 entries have split the vote. Now I didn't personally vote for Perciv@l even though I like the design quite a bit, but I feel that it's a shame that the vote was split like that. Clearly a large percentage of the voters like Perciv@l's idea one way or another. I'm not saying anything could/should be done to remedy the split vote, just that it should be noted.

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Reply #47 on: June 10, 2007, 11:56:02 am
Will take of this tomorrow once I have more time. Thanks for voting and all.
Uhm, another voting with the top 5 (or 6, since 3 sets are tied with 15) sounds like a nice idea.

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #48 on: June 10, 2007, 12:05:02 pm
Naah, take top 5, you can leave the Panda one out  :P

jk of course, I need you to win...

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Re: Smile 2007 - The Voting

Reply #49 on: June 10, 2007, 12:07:02 pm
Junkboy has 29 :crazy: