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Huge Swords and Tentacle Monsters

on: July 21, 2016, 12:12:57 pm
Heya, I'm back again with another project I'm hoping to finish this time :p
Here it is:
Huge Swords and Tentacle Monsters
Battle varying degrees of huge tentacle monsters with a somewhat inefficient laser grappling hook sword thing, I guess...

In this game you're some random gal that goes into a neon-tokyo ish city overrun by weird tentacle monsters, to kill them all and make the city liveable again.
Enemies are modular, made out of different "genes" and modular parts and'll most likely spawn around certain proc-gened hunting grounds that appear in a premade city(that's the idea at least), which will all be specific to certain genes

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Keep in mind pretty much all art is placeholder

From most recent to least recent:






I'd love to hear your feedback about this project though, I've been working on it for quite some time in my spare time now  ;D

Also, here's the tig thread if you want to see how it progressed before this topic(it has gone through quite some huge changes):beep


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Re: Huge Swords and Tentacle Monsters

Reply #1 on: August 03, 2016, 09:17:21 am
Wow, this is amazing! I think you really have solid base for a pc/console game. If I were not busy I would totally jump into this.

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Reply #2 on: September 05, 2016, 05:25:48 pm
Wow, this is amazing! I think you really have solid base for a pc/console game. If I were not busy I would totally jump into this.
Thanks :D I luckily managed to find an artist(Matwek) which is doing an amazing job with the environments and monsters(environments aren't in yet).

Anyway, here are some more gifs, since I've done a lot since the last time I've posted(it's close to being feature-complete for the demo!):




Not even everything I've done is shown here ;D

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Re: Huge Swords and Tentacle Monsters

Reply #3 on: September 06, 2016, 12:16:11 am
Looks great man.
Really excited to see more.
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Re: Huge Swords and Tentacle Monsters

Reply #4 on: September 07, 2016, 10:18:59 am
awesome cake, good to see youre still making stuff. love the tech, and the art looks great, that matwek guy is good! Whats the structure of the game?  is it a series of boss fights against these tentacle bastards, connected by platforming sections?

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Re: Huge Swords and Tentacle Monsters

Reply #5 on: September 08, 2016, 08:51:05 am
Happy to see this thread is still alive! :D The monster looks great

I would lie if I say I am not envious working on such a cool project :)

I scrolled through Matwek's art, this is gonna be really nice. I will be following the project eagerly :)

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Reply #6 on: September 08, 2016, 03:10:57 pm
Looks great man.
Really excited to see more.
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Yay :D

awesome cake, good to see youre still making stuff. love the tech, and the art looks great, that matwek guy is good! Whats the structure of the game?  is it a series of boss fights against these tentacle bastards, connected by platforming sections?
Thank you probo <3. Yeah, matwek's a pretty amazing artist, glad I got to work with him.

The structure of the game is basically you, the player, having to hunt four giant bosses who roam about in an open-world city divided by districts, killing flocks of smaller enemies(like the ones in the gifs) on your way and exterminating breeding grounds which sometimes slowly start taking over maps.

This is probably the shortest way to explain it :p.
For the demo however, which is the current goal I'm working towards, I only plan to have one district(which is finished geometry-wise), one boss(no giant), no npc use, just introduction and continuous spawning of enemies and such.

Happy to see this thread is still alive! :D The monster looks great

I would lie if I say I am not envious working on such a cool project :)

I scrolled through Matwek's art, this is gonna be really nice. I will be following the project eagerly :)
hehe, thank you :D I'm really glad you like the project :)


(I'm too tired right now to write another devlog entry specifically for pixelation,so I'll just paste the tig one right here)
Update 19:
I've once again added a ton of stuff, so I'm just gonna go over everything quickly :p

To start off, I've added lots of details to combat to make it feel more satisfying. It's one of the most important parts of the game, after all. To summarize:
-Screenshake, obviously. Pretty much everything has slight screenshake now
-Small pause whenever you hit an enemy, which I've masterfully coded by running an empty for-loop 10^100000 times or something
-If you hit an enemy whilst being in close range, you get knocked back a bit
-The monster gets knocked back a bit
-A slash line kind of effect, inspired by katana zero

All of this added up actually makes the fights way more fun than they were before, you can see the combat in play in the gifs to come.


Second batch of changes is that I've added a bit more movement options.
Basically, it's now possible to go over your standard max running speed by grappling yourself forward with your sword. If you do so, you keep running a bit faster for a small period of time. Using slopes whilst going over the walking speed limit also allows you to jump off slopes, which makes for some very fun movement:


I've also added a bit of knockback to the sword throw and slash, which can now function as a jump boost or slight double jump(in one of the battle gifs, you actually see me using my sword to jump higher in the air so I could hit the enemy)


Then, the final changes:
Matwek's been busy and has created almost all modular parts for the behemoth, meaning the darn thing is almost ready for the demo :D.

Here are some combinations of head and body genes showcased:

Acid plus charge


Laser plus spiked


Calling+teleporting

Also, I forgot to mention that there's health, grappling energy and dying now.


This wasn't all though, because I've also added something entirely new. At least, I've started working on it. May I present to you, the return of the worm:

The AI is a lot simpler than the behemoth, but it's a ton of fun to fight because of its huge size and the fact that you can fly by hitting him with your sword repeatedly. These things are more dangerous than behemoths, so they have a low chance of showing up among with the behemoths. I'm not sure, but I might even add that the behemoths'll try to stay away from you whilst attacking you, if the worm is attacking you as well.


That's it for now, I'm not sure what I'll work on next, mayhaps some menus or the final enemy for the demo.

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Re: Huge Swords and Tentacle Monsters

Reply #7 on: September 09, 2016, 11:36:51 pm
sounds fantastic! will there be other enemies aside from floating tentacle monsters between the boss fights then? I love the sword grapple, that could make the platforming really fun as well as the combat. If youre using Game Maker, could I suggest that changing the room speed temporarily might be a better way to get that pause when you hit an enemy, I do that in my game and it works pretty well.

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Reply #8 on: September 11, 2016, 06:49:07 pm
sounds fantastic! will there be other enemies aside from floating tentacle monsters between the boss fights then? I love the sword grapple, that could make the platforming really fun as well as the combat. If youre using Game Maker, could I suggest that changing the room speed temporarily might be a better way to get that pause when you hit an enemy, I do that in my game and it works pretty well.
The enemies will all be tentacle monsters, but I'm working on adding different types :D
Changing the room speed would be another solution, yeah. This one works quite well though, so I probably won't change it. Thanks for the suggestion though ^^

Update 20
Welp, I guess I'm going with the update counter on tig.
Anyway, here's the demo boss I've been working on, "The prophet of blades".

She's still wip and I don't have enough attacks yet, so suggestions would be appreciated!

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Re: Huge Swords and Tentacle Monsters

Reply #9 on: September 11, 2016, 07:48:57 pm
I got a bunch of ideas you could roll with.
For example, some kind of mid-air spin-reflect could add some neat depth to it. Lasers can't be reflected, perhaps, but smaller missiles can. I'd have it be a very sensitive thing though, like fighting-game-parries sensitive or close to it so it's not just a spam-this-to-win thing.
Elseways: Summons are always a fun time when you need just that little bit of extra help! Got a big robot friend? get him in there to shoot rockets and punch things. Got some homeless dude you know? He pops up and starts chucking molotovs and weaponized garbage. All kinds of good funtimes you can get with that!
Some kind of flying sword leap for quick dodge-to-airs, and a ground-pound for the inverse, too. Maybe some ground-dodges too? Movement abilities are always fun to play around with, and for a game that's as hectic and bullet-hellish as this seems to be I'd say they're a must so the player doesn't feel cheated by unavoidable attacks.


EDIT: OH YOU MEANT FOR THE BOSS CHARACTER, DOI. Brace for amazingly ambitious ideas!

Ok, so some stuff for her could be phases. Starting and ending on just her with a sword facing against you, with the blade flurry as the midpoint I think. Starting bit isn't terribly difficult, maybe some counters or stun-attacks but nothing too fancy to build up the surprise of the sudden blade vortex. Then we go on to what you got here, with maybe a couple other patterns like a tracking circle of blades you have to find a gap in to not get hit by, or some kind of absolutely massive meteor-smash sword hurtling down from the sky with a shockwave as it hits.
Then, once through that, she goes berzerker mode, drops the swordstorm, and starts just flurry-attacking you, and you gotta parry her more often than not since she's just ON YOU so much, doing short combos, parries, and launchers on you to keep the player on their toes.
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Reply #10 on: November 06, 2016, 02:37:15 pm
Wow I'm absolutely terrible at keeping stuff updated.

~Snipsnipsnip super long but very helpful comment~
Hehe, yeah, I meant the boss  :P

To respond to your player ideas though, I like them a lot, but I feel like they're a bit too complicated or unfitting with the atmosphere/story sometimes, especially for the demo.
I'm keeping the sword super simple on purpose, because that makes it very easy to understand, yet there are some small subtle rules which can make the difference between taking no damage and a ton of damage, such as being able to jump higher when swinging your sword down whilst jumping.
Blocking is already a part of the game, but not a very big one. It can indeed block certain bullets, but not a lot and it costs energy.
I might add upgrades to your sword and maybe some extra usable items and/or gear to convey that "you're hunting" feeling a bit more(think of things like traps, lures etc.), but that's a thing for later.

In the end I managed to come up with a few additions to the bossfight which made it a bit more interesting. I love your ideas though, and I might use them for future fights with her(she's planned to be a reoccuring boss). For now I just gave her two giant swords  :P

Update:
I'm not using the tig update counter anymore, because that makes no sense anymore :').

Anyway, in the time I didn't place anything here, we've been adding a ton of stuff, so I'm just gonna post all the gifs+explanation in spoiler tags, so your computer won't be mad at me:
In chronological order:

The updated prophet fight, I've improved it a bit more already


A fully working menu(except for control reconfiguration) with a title made by a fan


First slight implementation of the actual tiles  :lol:


Implementation of parallax scrolling and more work on the world map


Updated laser effect


Subway station


Implementation of birbs

So yeah, a ton of stuff has been done, including polish, optimizing and bugfixing.
The work left to do for the demo keeps getting less and less :D

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Reply #11 on: November 28, 2016, 02:36:39 pm
Update:



Retiling the map to make it less of a mess

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Reply #12 on: November 28, 2016, 06:16:05 pm
I like all of this.
Coming along nicely! Can't wait to see more. ^^
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Reply #13 on: November 28, 2016, 06:30:28 pm
I can't wait to play it  :lol:

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Re: Huge Swords and Tentacle Monsters

Reply #14 on: November 29, 2016, 05:18:40 am
Looking pretty good, but it looks like there's some seam issues along the edges of the tiles when the camera moves. Sorta like z-fighting, I'm not sure what's going on there but it's making me a bit dizzy!
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Reply #15 on: December 04, 2016, 07:20:47 pm
I like all of this.
Coming along nicely! Can't wait to see more. ^^
I can't wait to play it  :lol:
Glad you like it <3 A Demo is being planned around the end of this year, maybe one or two weeks in.

Looking pretty good, but it looks like there's some seam issues along the edges of the tiles when the camera moves. Sorta like z-fighting, I'm not sure what's going on there but it's making me a bit dizzy!
Thanks! hmm, I personally don't notice it that much and wouldn't know what the problem could be, but I'll look into it further and see if other people have the same issues!


Since most of the core is p much done for the demo, I'm returning to old stuff I didn't like before, so the first thing I did was redoing the demo boss. It has more defined patterns now, isn't super bugged and is actually kinda fun imo(although I'll just have to wait and see what other people think  :P)

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Reply #16 on: March 17, 2017, 03:48:21 pm
The camera is a little to hectic and the tiles are to detailed that my brain hurts after a while

(didt test it yet just commenteing on the gifs...amybe the problem is less active when you play it)

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Reply #17 on: March 17, 2017, 04:08:42 pm
Agreed with DieMango. The most recent three gifs make me dizzy. I'd keep the camera focused on the player character, so that they're generally in the same position at all times. Bosses should be positioned and designed in a way that they read well and look good without having to move the camera off the player.

The tiles in the most recent gif look great, but the high-contrast bricks in the two gifs before that hurt my eyes when they move. I'm sure it wouldn't be as bad at in-game framerates, but I think reducing the contrast would help in any case. The bricks don't seem important enough to warrant so much contrast.

I think the white motion trails are a bit much, they stand out more than the actual moving elements do, making it hard to quickly gauge their positions. I think using a lower-contrast colour, perhaps one of the oranges from the background, would help a lot. It could also look good to fade out the older after-images.

Aside from these things though, this looks pretty and fun! I'm usually not a fan of auto-rotated pixel art, but it works very well with the flat, blocky designs in this game. Even the tentacle creature from the earlier posts looks good despite the rotations. The sword boss looks really fun too, and the sword-wave gives me Sans vibes 8]