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Re: [NEW REF] Self Portrait

Reply #40 on: February 28, 2010, 10:51:11 am
Okay if you're going to go with the new reference photo, the face needs to be elongated. Do you see it?

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Re: [NEW REF] Self Portrait

Reply #41 on: February 28, 2010, 11:21:48 am
The angle is a bit different and the light very different, but yes, there are important features in this photo which are not in your pixel.

Mostly, the cheekbone-cheek-chin line.
Also more neck.

And just redo the whole hair!

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Re: [NEW REF] Self Portrait

Reply #42 on: February 28, 2010, 07:58:56 pm

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Re: [NEW REF] Self Portrait

Reply #43 on: February 28, 2010, 08:44:47 pm
You look a lot better ;D
You could add just a faint bit of shading to your nearer cheek under the cheekbone - as far as I can tell your face is no longer as round.
Also, your nose looks like it's dripping down your face. The nose bridge doesn't have enough volume to it.
Super minor, but there's a little jagginess to your nearer eye between the pupil and lower eyelid.
Amazing progress. Can't wait to see it finished!

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Re: [NEW REF] Self Portrait

Reply #44 on: March 01, 2010, 02:48:36 am

Made a few changes, I think I fixed the jaggedness on the eye, not sure.

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Re: [NEW REF] Self Portrait

Reply #45 on: March 01, 2010, 02:15:01 pm
Lots of really solid improvements. An edit of various things, compare with your version to see



This is a really educational thread on how to go from vague anime-style to a more concrete and constructed 'realistic' portrait.

The hair really needs reworking with theory in the mind though.

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Re: [NEW REF] Self Portrait

Reply #46 on: March 01, 2010, 08:12:22 pm
Played around with the hair a bit. I tried to make it look more realistic and less like a solid ball with hair texture on it.

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Re: [NEW REF] Self Portrait

Reply #47 on: March 01, 2010, 09:35:07 pm
the few dark pixels you have around the edge of the hair still makes it look flat - it's not because it's not shaded well, but because it takes contrast too far - when you compare the value range of the hair on the head to the edge, err. How do I explain it.

Because edge of hair is so dark, it makes the rest of the hair look flat - it tricks the eyes to not see the shading and highlights of the rest of the hair because the brain averages stuff and blah blah.

Smooth that stuff up anyways, there's not reason for the edge of the hair to be so contrasty. You haven't painted that kind of 'outline' on, say, the bottom of the chin, so there's really no need to apply that tech to the hair either.

Except for that, though, hot texture you've got going on. You're good at this.
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Re: [NEW REF] Self Portrait

Reply #48 on: March 01, 2010, 10:06:33 pm
Not quite sure what you were telling me to do, but I reduced the contrast on the hair shadow. I only changed 1 shade, but it came out nice.

EDIT

Made a few more various changes.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2010, 10:17:40 pm by Chrispy »

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Re: [NEW REF] Self Portrait

Reply #49 on: March 01, 2010, 11:27:36 pm
yes, that's what I meant.

I also think there's some discrepancy between the edge of the hair and the 'surface' of the hair. the surface implies strands of hair that behaves in one distinct way, the edge implies other kinds of strands/hair bunches

bring them together! Or, try. It's hard, this stuff <3
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