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Inconsistent Gate! Help Needed~

on: July 07, 2009, 06:21:22 pm
So, I'm working on a game and I need some help to keep the "consistency" of all my work, so far this is the first problem with the consistency (Although it shows up several times in other works)...

How I want my shading to look

(I could also use some help with the bins on the second floor, they don't seem to fit well either)

Palette is not mine

And What I'm trying to fix


Palette is not mine

As you can see their saturations and what not are off, so when put in the same map next to each other it kills the picture... I'm also pretty horrible at making Palettes, that needed being said I'll show you what it looks like when I de-saturate the entire thing...


I thought it would work, but it ended up just giving it a "Gray" effect... Still better than explosive colors in my opinion -.- So yeah, need a push in the right direction ^^;

Final edit (For now)
« Last Edit: July 14, 2009, 10:54:55 pm by Zettman »

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Re: Inconsistent Gate! Help Needed~

Reply #1 on: July 07, 2009, 06:53:51 pm
The main problem I think is inconsistant contrast between the 2 objects. If you look at the roof of the ramen joint, the outlines are much closer to the wood colour then in the arch.
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Re: Inconsistent Gate! Help Needed~

Reply #2 on: July 07, 2009, 07:07:21 pm
So just the roofs outlines, or the entire things outline (wall, doors, etc)...? I can see what you mean btw, it does appear like the outlines for the roof of the gate is a bit more "Rough" :/

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Re: Inconsistent Gate! Help Needed~

Reply #3 on: July 07, 2009, 07:29:57 pm
Not just the roof, the whole thing.

Here you can see nicely how much the contrast differs overall.

There are no ugly colours, only ugly combinations of colours.

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Re: Inconsistent Gate! Help Needed~

Reply #4 on: July 07, 2009, 07:36:56 pm
Oh wow, I see it better now... Going to fix up these Outlines then and put it up in a bit, but should I do something the walls shading? it seems a bit rough :/

EDIT: Ok, here is the "Soft Outline" version, picked a bit at the walls aswell, wasn't satisfied with the contrast between those colors neither.


Out of lazyness I left the green doors alone >.<
« Last Edit: July 07, 2009, 08:02:48 pm by Zettman »

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Re: Inconsistent Gate! Help Needed~

Reply #5 on: July 07, 2009, 09:28:08 pm
how are the gates attached? magic?  magic isn't a great method for a protective gate, and i doubt that a decorative one would be close to 3 stories high.

if you close them, they will each also span the entire doorway, rather than meet in the center.
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Re: Inconsistent Gate! Help Needed~

Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 01:17:38 pm
I already figured the proportions were wrong, but to be honest...  It would take me hours to resize them again x.x I'd rather hope nobody notices instead, since the gates never close...

Edit: Nvm, I figured an easy way to make the gates close in right, even though they probably never will~



Ok, so I made the space inbetween wider... Gotta fix the bottom steps a little, and I didn't understand what you meant by the gates being attached by magic o.o
« Last Edit: July 08, 2009, 02:05:58 pm by Zettman »

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Re: Inconsistent Gate! Help Needed~

Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 02:12:30 pm
He meant that your gates are in no way attached to the walls, by hinges of some sorts. However, I think he did not notice that at the top the main vertical beam goes on into the roof. On the contrary however, this is still not good enough, as it is poorly readable, the bottom is not attached, and absolutely a weak construction without some decent hinge-like attachments inbetween

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Re: Inconsistent Gate! Help Needed~

Reply #8 on: July 08, 2009, 07:50:18 pm
i think even another 8-16 pixels would make the gate width more convincing.

i don't think one lighter pixel in a pattern counts as a vertical bar going into the roof.  they still look like two giant playing-cards balanced in the space.

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Re: Inconsistent Gate! Help Needed~

Reply #9 on: July 09, 2009, 01:04:30 am
Wow, I never looked at it that way... My knowledge of architecture and hardware structure is very slim  :( Is there anything else I should edit? I really appreciate the help given by you guys ^^ this forums great :P