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Robot

on: November 08, 2008, 12:40:10 am
ok i have been working and i am going to make a robot type thingy this is what have...




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« Last Edit: November 08, 2008, 12:48:51 am by rudydbooty »

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Re: Robot

Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 01:12:59 am
CAW!...Err, I mean, it looks flat. As a pancake. I can hardly tell what it is, to me, it looks like 3 boxes slapped together with some kind of propulsion added to the bottom.

It needs some kind of recognizable form!?

Black-lines not helping the hopelessly flat feeling...Hmmm.

The red ambient light looks more like fresh blood more than anything else
« Last Edit: November 08, 2008, 01:17:20 am by Draco9898 »

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Re: Robot

Reply #2 on: November 08, 2008, 02:42:04 am
I think the most important thing you need to do is to imagine the robot as a set of 3D shapes ("volumes") rather than as rectangles. It will guide your shading, help you give the image depth, and make it recognizable as an object.

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Re: Robot

Reply #3 on: November 08, 2008, 05:07:16 am
I'm gonna try and help you out here a bit with some edits.

Here's the transformation:

And a Still of the final redux:


Your version looks like a couple of random rectangles that are stuck together with tape ^_^ First thing I did was go back to flat colors, so we can work with a blank slate more or less. Your version used 14 colors, which is WAY more than you needed for a nigh-upon monochrome robot. Next, I redesigned the head shape, to give it some real form, something a bit more recognizable as a helmet/robot head. Then, I redid the body shape. Again, we just had basically a rectangle there, nothing very noticeable or eye catching. This is where I had to start thinking about the _function_ of the robot.

Now, near as I could tell, your robot had a giant gun strapped to his chest. Or rather, superglued from the looks of it. The first thing I did was redesign it so that it was a bit more recognizable as a gun, then I added a mounting bracket (the little bump between the barrel and his body). Believe it or not, there was even a reason for the shape of his body. Our robot buddy here is sitting on a repulsor, so he can't ground himself before the gun fires. Judging by the size, I'd say that gun packs a kick. So, I angled the back so that I'd have room for a stabalizer.

Next came details. A wrap around mount for the gun, complete with rivets to hold it in place, a random panel in the back for prettiness, the stablizer nozzel on his back, and the repulsor complete with a couple panels to make it more visually interesting.

Next came highlighting and shadows. Note, I only used one color for each. You've got to really think about where your lighting is coming from. In this case, it was easy enough to pick a forward light source and run with that. If you look closely at the pixels, you can see I added a bit more detail using just the shadow and highlight color to give some visual intrest to him.

Finally, the repulsor's jet. If you look real close, I added the secondary color using the second to lightest color from the jet.

So on the final version, you've got something that's visually interesting, has depth, and has a color pallet of 8 colors (three for the jet, four for the body, and one for the background(transparent)). It's memory friendly and fun to look at.

the key to this is to _plan_ what you're going to do before you pixel it. Start playing around with ideas on paper before you touch a mouse, then, once you've got a good idea of what you want, start pixeling. Keep in mind you light source and what the thing is going to do. If it's going to have a force, like the cannon, you'll need a counter force (like the stabalizer nozzel), if you're going to have something that flies, it needs to be aerodynamic, if you're going to have a rock crusher, it needs to be big and bulky. I can boil this whole thing down into three words: "Plan your picture."

Anyway, don't take my revision and use it. Do your own revision. You won't learn by grabbing my stuff, you'll only learn if you do.

Just for grins and giggles, here's a couple animations I made with my revision, to give you an idea of what I had in mind:

For the animations, I also strayed away from the black line to give it more depth, turning it into a darker brown color.

Anyway, I hope this helps. Keep it up, you'll get there :)

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Re: Robot

Reply #4 on: November 08, 2008, 01:11:46 pm
Thank you so much, straypixels ....

not trying to copy or anything but i liked your idea so i made a really cool re edit (if you think i am like copying you then i will not post it on anything and say it is mine)



And i feel really pitiful because i think i like copyed yours (sniff... ) sorry... if i did.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2008, 01:25:44 pm by rudydbooty »

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Re: Robot

Reply #5 on: November 08, 2008, 03:30:53 pm
Well, it's not an exact copy, but it's really really close. Try again, and this time, really let your imagination go wild. You're not limited to what I did, do your own thing.

Also, remember, this is a robot, it's mostly going to have straight, or circular edges. The shadowing on the back of the body is a bit organic, and it takes away from his blocky nature. Also, think about where your lighting is coming from. You've got a shadow on top of the ridge around his head. That doesn't make sense ;)

Try again, you're already showing improvement. Maybe try making something new based on what you've learned so far?

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Re: Robot

Reply #6 on: November 08, 2008, 06:26:39 pm
Ok, here is a little house i did (it's not perfect)

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Re: Robot

Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008, 06:31:43 pm
going for an adobe hut kind of look?
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Re: Robot

Reply #8 on: November 08, 2008, 06:50:49 pm
Yeah, sort of but i think I will play around with it.

Ok, changed the thing and here is what i have so far.



Pretty Unique uh... ;D

(I am not liking the legs but i don't know how i could change them)

Leg edit



Oh, and his name is pumpkin house flying warrior
« Last Edit: November 08, 2008, 06:55:31 pm by rudydbooty »

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Re: Robot

Reply #9 on: November 09, 2008, 04:30:11 pm
I think your problem is that you don't finish your pieces. You need to spend more time on each one until it's totally finished. The robot could still use work and should be finished before you move on. And some detail, like bolts, seams, etc. Also think about changing the eye and mixing up the overall piece to be more interesting.
If you're short on creativity:
Give it a cowboy hat
Make a detailed jetpack on it's back
Attach it to an outlet with a power cord
Give it a mask of some kind

Suspend your pumpkin man until you finish the robot.
I would make an edit but I'm not on my home computer so I can't atm.
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