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Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

on: October 18, 2008, 12:51:22 pm
Hi

My name is Michal (Lysekoid) and I'm a professional game developer. I had this idea that Iíd like to try out. I would like to create some tutorials and teach non-programmers, especially very talented spriters and graphics artists, how to create their own mobile phone games.

What would you guys thing on that? Would anyone here be interested? I will give away my own JavaME source codes and take you step by step through the different procedures. When we are done with the tutorial, you will have a game in your hands that will contain your graphics, which you modified and worked on, and that can be run on a real mobile phone!

Anyone interested? I need one or a few people whoíd have the will to take this all the way in order for us to succeed!

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #1 on: October 18, 2008, 02:51:16 pm
NOO, it will make us programmers who aren't exactly talented when it comes to art obsolete!!

Just kidding, go for it! :) I personally am not that interested in mobile game development but I can't think of any reason for not writing a tutorial.

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #2 on: October 19, 2008, 01:51:53 pm
Sure, could be interesting.

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 06:39:07 pm
I'll try it.

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 11:55:16 am
Let me make a few things clear... My request is NOT a request for spriters to help me out. What I'm trying to do is to offer my help to you.

If there are any spriters who don't know how to make a mobile phone game then I'm willing to help them along and lead them through the process until they can continue the work without my help.

So, the project will require some programming, BUT with the source code I'm offering even the person with NO programming experience will be able to get a game running. When we are finished, you will have a game of your own, that can be downloaded into a real mobile phone and played. Spriting skills are required... When we are finished through the different steps of my planning, you'll be working on your own without needing help from me. My goal is to help people and make sure you learn something cool and can continue with your own projects. However, I will always be available to help out even once you are a professional mobile phone developer.

The first step will be to start easy. In the first step we'll simply modify my own game, a space invaders clone called SpaceBat. We will change it's graphics, learn how to prepare graphics and make it work with the course code I provide.

Once we are done with this Space Invaders clone, we will move to another game I made, a platform game, something similar to Super Mario, which you will be able to remake into a MegaMan game or whatever platform game you like...

The first we have to do is to divide you guys into several teams or one large team. If someone wants to work on his own, then that's ok. And those of you that want to work together, can do that as well. Each team will need to make:
1. Minimum 1 background in the size of 320x320 pixels
2. One hero ship
3. Minimum 2 enemies

So... what teams do you want to belong to? And what name would you like to give your game?

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 05:49:39 pm
Hey, this sounds interesting. I think I'd like to try it by myself. :)

I'll call my game "Splerg".

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 11:16:00 pm
I'm sure I'll try and follow along with this as well providing that I can. I'm not sure if having only a mac will hinder me.

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #7 on: October 22, 2008, 10:04:45 pm
PS! Simply try to make teams as you see fit, and post them here. However, if you find noone, and feel you lack a skill, like spriting, the worry not. I am here to help out, and you will succeed as well as anyone else. Teams are importnat, whether you're working woth someone or have a one-man-team, because of different ideas. You will probably like to go in different directions, so only make a team with someone who wants the same things as you do!

Since this is Pixelation, I donít think making sprites should be a problem for any of you guys, but remember that any sprite will do. You can even use google to find some sprites and background to borrow, if you donít feel like making it yourself, as long as you have something to work with!

Trolleybuses : Wonderful, ďSplergĒ it is!

Jakten: Welcome aboard!

The first task for each team is to create some graphics, because you will use it as the firs think you do in your game. You need:
1.   One background, 320x320 pixels
2.   One hero ship or something similar
3.   About 2 enemy sprites!

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #8 on: October 23, 2008, 01:33:14 pm
most mobile games are small enough that only 1 artist could do all the graphics.. i dont understand why you're requesting people to get into teams.
Also, shouldnt this be more focused towards the programming aspect of making a mobile phone game.. i think most of us here already have a handle on the art side of things..
how do we know that you won't simply take our art and use it in your own games?..

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #9 on: October 26, 2008, 05:09:08 am
i'm all for it


i'd love to try
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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #10 on: October 26, 2008, 09:51:14 pm
"The first step will be to start easy. In the first step we'll simply modify my own game, a space invaders clone called SpaceBat. We will change it's graphics, learn how to prepare graphics and make it work with the course code I provide."
"my own game, a space invaders clone called SpaceBat. We will change it's graphics,"

Im really skeptic :/

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #11 on: October 30, 2008, 10:00:40 am
Hi guys! Iím so sorry for being a way forÖ a week without posting. A small disaster happened last Friday. My hard-drive crashed and everything, the whole partition, got damaged beyond repairÖ and our technicians donít even know what happened.

Fortunately, I made a backup just a few days before, and lost NOTHING! You got to love backups in such timesÖ Anyway, itís taken me a few days to set everything back as it was, so Iíll be able to take this project to the next step sometime this upcoming weekend!

First of all, I won't just add my tutorials and let me thread stand still... I will post one step of the tutorial at the time, and guide each project member through it.

We will start with mobile phone programming! Those of you who will have the strength to follow me through this project will end up with a mobile phone game. We will do two types of games for mobile phones:
1.    A Space Invader clone
2.   A Super Mario / MegaMan / Platform game  type of clone

And those of you who do a good job will be selected for the next project after that: GameBoy Advance programming, just like me and my team did for this project: http://www.megaman-newhorizon.com/roa.php

I will only select people who complete the mobile phone projects to get the chance of receiving our unique GameBoy Advance game engine with source code. And just like for this project, I will guy you to teach you how to use it!

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #12 on: October 30, 2008, 10:06:51 pm
Lysek is kinda quirky and his first language isnt english, but he is not dishonest...if you're interested go along with this.

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #13 on: November 01, 2008, 11:50:06 pm
I would love to follow along with this but can't say I'd be able to participate in the format you are suggesting.  I just had a baby, moved, and started work as a dishwasher at a diner so I don't have the freetime or availability to be apart of a team as most here might.  But this sounds to be an invaluable lesson that could lead to filling a portfolio for a career someday perhaps.  So I'm hoping that you'll post up resources for those not chiming in with set teams to follow along with.

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #14 on: November 03, 2008, 08:12:43 am
i'm following on
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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #15 on: November 04, 2008, 02:18:34 pm
I want try this do we need special programs for the programing?

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #16 on: November 06, 2008, 09:53:04 am
most mobile games are small enough that only 1 artist could do all the graphics.. i dont understand why you're requesting people to get into teams.
Also, shouldnt this be more focused towards the programming aspect of making a mobile phone game.. i think most of us here already have a handle on the art side of things..
how do we know that you won't simply take our art and use it in your own games?..
Good questions!

I want you to set up teams, but a team can have between 1 and several members. Ifyou can handle everything yourself, then announce yourself as a team. This is done because we will be making one game per team and not one game per person, and I hope there will be less teams than people.

Those people who know me know that I am a professional developer, and I do not steal graphics. If I need to make a game myself then I make it myself (I am a decent senior spriter) and when I don't feel like creating sprites myself I hire people to do it. Sohei and Fabian are two spriters that I found here on Pixelation that have been working for me for several months now, and got paid quite well for each job... and they're probably the best spriters I've seen :)

So to answer your questions: No, I will not take your graphics and use it in my own game. I don't do such dishonest things. But the project does not require that you submit anything beautiful. I want you to use your own stuff because I want to teach you how to update the game with your own stuff. For all I care, you can borrow something from the internet if you like, just as long as it's not something I'm already using in my game.

Lysek is kinda quirky and his first language isnt english, but he is not dishonest...if you're interested go along with this.
All true, thank you!
And you will end up with your own Mobile Phone game, you have my word.

I would love to follow along with this but can't say I'd be able to participate in the format you are suggesting.  I just had a baby, moved, and started work as a dishwasher at a diner so I don't have the freetime or availability to be apart of a team as most here might.  But this sounds to be an invaluable lesson that could lead to filling a portfolio for a career someday perhaps.  So I'm hoping that you'll post up resources for those not chiming in with set teams to follow along with.
Take your time, and tag along at your own speed. We are in no hurry, and I will help each team at their own tempo. But I have quite a bit of know-how to share... which may turn out valuable if you use it right. Yes, your portfolio may indeed grow...

I want try this do we need special programs for the programing?
Yes, but they are all free, and I will set up easy-to-follow visual guides in PDF format that you may install and use those tools without ANY problems, just follow my lead!


So... correct me if I'm wrong, but we have 3 TEAMS then?

TEAM 1:
* Raytheon
 
TEAM 2:
* Argyle

TEAM 3:
* aregon810


First of all you (each TEAM) will need to create the following things:
1. One background 320x320 (your own, or simply borrow a background from the internet, and if you have problems, let me know and I'll help out)
I used this myself for once:


2. One hero sprite, a ship like this for example:


3. Two (or more) enemies, like these:


..and when you're all done, please post them here!

After that, we'll start by updating the SpaceBat game with your graphics!
Borrow graphics from the internet if you don't want to make it yourself!
« Last Edit: November 06, 2008, 10:04:50 am by Lysekoid »

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #17 on: November 07, 2008, 09:30:11 pm
i dont think they are verry good but here are mine (dont want put to much time in it (dont like space invaders so not exelent work, but it will be good practising for the game i think so here are they)




(my hero with 3 diferend wepons =-D)

(dont think the animation is very good so i'll skip it)

Mabey i can add this explosion in it aswel? (made it long ago, mabey i've to recollour it but)


what you think of it?

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #18 on: November 08, 2008, 07:33:11 pm
You missed alot of the early posters:

Xion, Panda, Jakten, trolleybusses (any more?
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hello

Reply #19 on: November 11, 2008, 12:57:59 pm
hello i would like to join this topic
space xD
hero:D
enemies =D

edit: And if i can ask; If we make backround 320*320 we also need mobile resolution 320*320 or i can also play it on my g502 with 240*320? (sry, my english is not good i think:D)
« Last Edit: November 12, 2008, 04:23:28 pm by edems »

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #20 on: November 11, 2008, 01:26:31 pm
hmm... I'd like to join aswell  :)

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #21 on: November 22, 2008, 12:40:05 pm
Hello! I am portuguese and I am very young so my english isn't very good.
I wanna learn to make a phone game because I like very much to make projects and inovate so can I have my team? Me, only. My game name: HAABU

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #22 on: November 24, 2008, 01:38:55 pm
I'm most certainly joining into this, will edit this post with the art later.

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #23 on: November 26, 2008, 09:52:06 am
Good enough, and I've given you guys a lot of time to do the necessary graphics and Iím assuming that those of you who has not done anything up until today, are not feeling like continuing at all.

But the rest of us, are going forward!

Next step would be to install the necessary tool. You need NetBeans with the Mobility pack! These tools are FREE of course, developed by Sun, and very good. You also need to download the SpaceBat source code! Youíll find everything you need here: http://www.megaman-newhorizon.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=744&sid=c83f14ca2689a5cafc433b0f4e3b79f8
(You may need to login to reach the page, because this source code is very valuable and we donít want just anyone to download it, but we will continue the tutorial here so no worries!)

Next update (here in this thread) will be this weekend, so I hope youíll be ready! I will take your graphics, modify the code using your graphics and show you how itís done!

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #24 on: November 26, 2008, 03:50:21 pm
Please, can I still participate?
I already have the fund, the hero, the enemies ... but I need someone to tell me something. I can't paste the pictures when I leave a post like this. Please help me. I want very much learn how to create my own mobile phone game...

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #25 on: November 26, 2008, 05:42:50 pm
You can ALWAYS follow through the taken steps as they are still posted here, however, it may be a good idea to make up for time - loss asap, so you can join in for the rest of the process and still ask questions to Lysekoid, rather than having to do all by yourself when the tutorials already ended, including facing unexpected issues.

@Lysekoid: Provide downloads separately and clearly HERE, as I will NOT register where I do not have any business. You came to Pixelation to give this info, I did not go to New Horizon to get it. That may sound harsh, and I mean no offense in any way, it is just a summarized version of my policy regarding this.

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #26 on: November 26, 2008, 05:53:41 pm
I really don't see the point. Without a team of people to port your "mobile phone" game to every platform, wheres the benefit

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #27 on: November 26, 2008, 06:29:52 pm
Frankly, dogmeat, your opinion does not interest me. I do what I want, I do not care if my game will sell. I do not even care if my game will be known. Only interests me that I made a game, and that to me is a great personal satisfaction.
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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #28 on: November 29, 2008, 11:08:03 am
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@Lysekoid: Provide downloads separately and clearly HERE, as I will NOT register where I do not have any business. You came to Pixelation to give this info, I did not go to New Horizon to get it. That may sound harsh, and I mean no offense in any way, it is just a summarized version of my policy regarding this.

I agree

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #29 on: December 17, 2008, 03:38:47 pm
wow! this is awesome! making simple games is quite interesting. i wonder when lysekoid is going to finish the whole tutorial..

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Re: Learn how to create your own mobile phone game

Reply #30 on: January 06, 2009, 11:44:04 am
For the love of everything good I must join this!!  I'll edit post later when I have the required sprites.