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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #200 on: January 02, 2010, 04:56:19 pm
Which video did you use Jakten?

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #201 on: January 02, 2010, 05:36:21 pm
I've been using these DVDs by Glenn Vilppu. I had never heard of him before and someone randomly suggested him to me. Quite helpful so far though.

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I decided to try and use this method to draw a face and this is what I came up with, I pasted the head reference over top of it to show how close I was in terms of proportion. I almost got it, some areas are off a good amount and it doesn't really look like her but I think it turned out well. Her eyes are too far apart, the ridge on her nose isn't high enough and her jaw isn't wide enough.


Much better proportions than I usually draw though.
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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #202 on: January 03, 2010, 01:37:24 am
Ah yes, I have a book by Vilppu lying around, I should try to look into it.

I'm still doing Loomis exercises right now and I plan on reading Hogarth and Bridgman next.

In terms of animation I've gone over most of the disney material for study (Robin Hood and Sleeping Beauty are very simple and good to study) and some of the flexing tubes era. I also found it nice to study how anatomy and muscle deformation is handled by more recent cartoons, such as the pretty decent "Spectacular Spider-man".

I'm making progress, but I still have trouble putting it all together. I might search for some new life drawing classes in '10 to apply the newly learned techniques on live models. When I was doing life figure drawing, I was still in my contour drawing stage.

What you describe about your life drawings class seems to be contour oriented too. It's good to learn how to interpret masses to contours before starting the theory. That's why the beginner classes in life drawin tend to leave you to your own devices, so you can get acquainted with contours. It's not advisable to do volume study before you know most of the theory, so shading should be left out of those exercises.


As for the drawing you posted, have a look at the mouth area. You oversimplify the way the mouth connects the chin. You can draw a triangle from the mouth corner to the middle bottom of the lips to the chin. That part forms a plane that is not represented in your drawing. Here's an wireframe construction of the nose and chin areas that might be interesting. The nose area I did is not really correct, but still, look at the indent in the middle. There's a fat mass there that needs attention, which runs into the mouth area (represented in green).

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #203 on: January 04, 2010, 10:11:33 pm
There's some amazing stuff in here.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2010, 04:12:51 pm by Phones »

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #204 on: April 14, 2010, 04:54:07 pm
Some CnC on this would be great, I'm sort of new to this anatomy dealy but I've done several pages of sketches on paper through the months. I know the feet are horrendous.

I saved it as JPEG...first time I've ever made such a mistake.

Second attempt
« Last Edit: April 14, 2010, 07:22:03 pm by Xamllew »

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #205 on: April 18, 2010, 11:25:59 am
I didn't think that this would be worth making a topic about, so I'm just gonna ask this here.

How do you go about learning anatomy? What's the best way?

Do you start with learning the skeleton? The muscles?

And what is a good reference for this kinda thing? I've used Andrew Loomis a few times but I always hear mixed things about it.

I've heard it's the best and that it's not that good at all.

It's just that I'd love to start studying anatomy, but I have no idea where to start. Any suggestions would be really helpful.

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #206 on: April 18, 2010, 01:58:04 pm
I didn't think that this would be worth making a topic about, so I'm just gonna ask this here.

How do you go about learning anatomy? What's the best way?

Do you start with learning the skeleton? The muscles?
Live study or photographic reference of nudes is where I would start.

I don't want to dissuade you from studying the underlying anatomy because it is definately worthy, but getting confident with more general concepts like form, proportion and foreshortening are most important for the beginner.

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #207 on: April 18, 2010, 02:11:39 pm
General consensus is probably going to be something like WHO KNOWS MEN JUST DO IT!

But I started by attending some local lifedrawing classes (DO ITTTTTTTTTTTTT) and acquiring many helpful books that gave me things to think about and focus upon whilst attending said lifedrawing classes.

I reccomend the Force book (http://www.drawingforce.com/) because it doesn't immediately vault into flexors and extensors and the latin names of finicky little bones, but starts with much, much broader concepts of anatomy, such as how to "see" where the force or weight is, how to see the forceful shapes, and how to actually start drawing. It's not necessarily an anatomy book in the technical sense, but I found it to be a lot of fun and improvement inducing.

Experience and failing a lot is always the best teacher, though. I'm extremely hypocritical on that front. I should go draw. RIGHT NOW.

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #208 on: April 19, 2010, 09:07:09 pm
I found a really nifty thread on conceptart.org titled 'Realism vs Construction' that discusses two different approaches to figure drawing.

Thread is here: http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160487

The difference is between precisely copying the light values (realism) vs building from 3d forms (construction).  Two large images from the thread that show the difference visually, linked for size:

Construction
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/3068048269_570ea2b402_o.jpg

Realism
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/3068914058_d21fa2ab40_o.jpg

I'm only on about page 4 of that thread as I post this but there is a lot of discussion about different art schools and how they approach the subject. 

Tourist

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Re: Official Anatomy Thread

Reply #209 on: April 19, 2010, 11:52:14 pm
I found a really nifty thread on conceptart.org titled 'Realism vs Construction' that discusses two different approaches to figure drawing.

Thread is here: http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160487

The difference is between precisely copying the light values (realism) vs building from 3d forms (construction).  Two large images from the thread that show the difference visually, linked for size:

Construction
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/3068048269_570ea2b402_o.jpg

Realism
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/3068914058_d21fa2ab40_o.jpg

I'm only on about page 4 of that thread as I post this but there is a lot of discussion about different art schools and how they approach the subject. 

Tourist

Wow, man.  That is literally a goldmine of information.  Thanks for sharing!