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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #340 on: August 09, 2008, 04:23:42 pm
It's quite loaded to give the name 'God' to your inner... something. It sort of invites friction with believers of religious deities if you think about it.

Sure, I'll buy that.  But it is a convenient title, and to some people, they are one and the same....

That's a whole new topic, whether people think in words.  Does my brain think in English?  does it believe in God?  Or is that how my ears translate my thoughts?  :P
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #341 on: August 09, 2008, 04:27:42 pm
What I'm wondering, however, is why most programmers that I've encountered on the internets hate Java?
Dunno, probably that it's interpretive language, thus it's a lot slower than compiled languages.

Two thoughts!

1 - God is just a name for the sum (past, present and future) of chance.  It IS something that should inspire wonder, but I'm not entirely sure it should inspire faith?

2 - Java is a real mixed bag for experienced programmers.  Some thoughts:

A - It is interpreted.  However, the VM is so heavily optimized on most machines that once the language starts up, its really remarkably fast.  So as long as you don't mind a delay when the VM itself actually launches the first time, it's really a fairly fast language.

B - Java does some things SO right that it is not even funny.  The language itself, like the core language (not libraries, not APIs) includes proper support for strings, threading, and networking.  This is not trivial, and it is completely Fing awesome.

C - As a language, however, it is deeply (IMO fatally) flawed.  The exceptions system is bloated and disgusting, and most of the syntax and organization is so insanely arbitrary and retarded that it is impossible to ever GUESS how something might work.  You HAVE to look it up; C and other fundamentally sound languages aren't really like this.  In C, once you know the basics, you can begin to extend your capabilities by intuition because the language has some good basic rules (this isn't true for every feature of C, certainly, but even the basics of Java are arbitrary and annoying).

That's my take anyways!  Java fits into my world for very specific applications, especially simple cross-platform clients for various network services or networked games.  The combo of cross-platform compatibility, threading, and network support is just too good to pass up for certain projects.

3 - Yes people absolutely do think in words all the time!  This is why it is so Fing hard to learn a new language

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #342 on: August 09, 2008, 04:29:25 pm
All religion is a product of human imagination.

you must ask yourself, if humans weren't here, would there still be "god, heaven and hell".

Also what makes humans special from the rest of the animals... if there a "mice god" or a "dolphin heaven"

We are just atoms. Religion is bullshit.  The sooner fundametalists realise this, the less bombings we will have.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #343 on: August 09, 2008, 04:37:26 pm
The sooner muslim dickheads fundamentalists realise this, the less bombings we will have.

Fixed.  Bigotry will absolutely not be tolerated in any way, shape or form.  I'm giving you a strike for that post.  Never, EVER forget that there are a LOT of fundamentalists out there, and the phenomenon of fundamentalism has essentially nothing to do with Islam, and everything to do with poverty, lack of education, and iniquity.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #344 on: August 09, 2008, 04:52:50 pm
2 strikes?? wtf....


okay perhaps i phrased that wrong, but i am entitled to my opinions.

i wasnt saying that all muslims are bad, just that all major terrorist acts have stemmed from islamic fundamentalists.




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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #345 on: August 09, 2008, 05:06:11 pm
2 strikes?? wtf....

okay perhaps i phrased that wrong, but i am entitled to my opinions.

i wasnt saying that all muslims are bad, just that all major terrorist acts have stemmed from islamic fundamentalists.

You had a strike in May that was never recorded in the new system.  So I added that in for you, just so you wouldn't be caught off guard.

As for your opinions on "terrorism":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_city_bombing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unabomber
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

And that's just in the last 15 years in the US alone.  You do not know what you are talking about, and it makes you look like an ignorant racist.

EDIT - The list goes on and on:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Liberty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_%28abolitionist%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army

By inventing bullshit claims like
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all major terrorist acts have stemmed from islamic fundamentalists.
you are absolutely directly implying that all muslims ARE bad, because you are singling out the religion as being the sole link to the phenomenon.  As I said before, this is bigotry, and will not be tolerated.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #346 on: August 09, 2008, 05:08:18 pm
You are simply wrong as far as where terrorism happens and by whom.

B.O.B. I wonder what sorta places you frequent where the moment religion is brought up it's best to drop it discretely in fear that someone might get offended.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #347 on: August 09, 2008, 05:12:37 pm
B.O.B. I wonder what sorta places you frequent where the moment religion is brought up it's best to drop it discretely in fear that someone might get offended.

The United States of America?  :crazy:

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #348 on: August 09, 2008, 05:16:04 pm
Mmm... I don't thing religion has a lot to do with terrorism. I think a lot of people use religion as a tool or a reason, but I think it's rarely the cause. To be completely honest, despite me being a cynical realist who laughs in the face of all things Godlike, I think if all of the people on the earth were truly religious, the world would be a better place. Because religion like to teach about peace and love and junk like that. If everyone could understand that, then the world would be a  better place. Religion, in itself, is a very good thing. Despite it being compeltely unfounded...

On the other hand, my non-realist side likes to believe in balance. Maybe it's just me trying to look on the bright side whenever bad things happen, or maybe there's some truth in it, but that side of me believes violence and destruction has to exist to feed peacefulness and productivity. Ye olde Yin and Yang.

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All religion is a product of human imagination. [...] We are just atoms.
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Religion is bullshit. The sooner fundametalists realise this, the less bombings we will have.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #349 on: August 09, 2008, 05:24:01 pm
You had a strike in May that was never recorded in the new system.  So I added that in for you, just so you wouldn't be caught off guard.

it was recorded, and then removed by ptoing as 3 months had passed, as per the system.

okay so i guess this wrong place to talk about my views on religion and terrorism etc...

yeah i probably am an ignorant dick, but whatever, i have my beliefs, and shall keep them to myself from now on.

sorry if i offended anyone.