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Re: [WIP] 32x48 Sword (novice)

Reply #10 on: February 16, 2008, 06:36:57 pm
I'll keep that in mind for later.
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Re: [WIP] 32x48 Sword (novice)

Reply #11 on: February 16, 2008, 09:31:47 pm
Well there are much better way to approach this... For example try making the handle rounder and take some reference from real pic's of swords. (I mean seriously, could you really see some one trying to hold that handle?) Or maybe try and make a more prominent light source. From the blade it looks as though the light is coming in from the right hand side, and on the handle it looks as though it is coming from the top of the image. These are just a few thing you should take into consideration while spriting.

Ive made a rough edit to show you what I mean.



No offense, but that looks more like a dildo than a sword.

The handle of the sword looks proportionally incorrect. It should be twice as long, in my opinion.

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Re: [WIP] 32x48 Sword (novice)

Reply #12 on: February 16, 2008, 10:07:23 pm
Eek, resize coming through!





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Re: [WIP] 32x48 Sword (novice)

Reply #13 on: February 16, 2008, 10:51:20 pm
http://www.armor.com/swords.html is a good reference.  i think that I am uh's is the best edit by far and should be taken into quite a bit stronger consideration.

the handle does not need to be longer by necessity, thinning it out should also solve that issue.  it's a wonderful trick of most weapon hafts and handles that the width of the hand across the knuckles is equal to the ideal (imo) circumference: the space for a single hand should be the diameter multiplied by Pi.  Increases in handle thickness i think should come only when necessitated by potential fragility.
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Re: [WIP] 32x48 Sword (novice)

Reply #14 on: February 16, 2008, 11:00:19 pm
pi, i haven't learnt that yet. Is it something like 3.152 something?
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Re: [WIP] 32x48 Sword (novice)

Reply #15 on: February 16, 2008, 11:41:58 pm
What you may wish to know is that in the center, that line is a dent, not a bump.
In addition to that, there is a change in the surface at the edges to create the sharp cutting edge.
Also, let me edit your sprite to illustrate the construction of a sword to you. As this blade, will never be able to stick to its handle.

It may not be the best and in windows colors and all, but let it serve you well:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3812/27523235bx9.png

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Re: [WIP] 32x48 Sword (novice)

Reply #16 on: February 17, 2008, 12:31:58 am


Edit:

« Last Edit: February 17, 2008, 12:41:09 am by mattpk »
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Re: [WIP] 32x48 Sword (novice)

Reply #17 on: February 17, 2008, 12:50:25 am
What you may wish to know is that in the center, that line is a dent, not a bump.

i think that varies based on whether it is merely where the sides of the blade join, as with most simple swords, or if there is a fuller, as with later, more sophisticated swords.

the most imporant thing to keep in mind though as trev has shown is that seldom if ever are the handle and the blade different pieces of metal. this means that many simple swords were somewhat thin, having been beaten from a piece of approximately the same size as the handle!  and that's the handle less it's binding!  improvements in and propagation of more complex casting and forging methods would allow for greater variation of shape and size, but most swords continued to be constructed using the fastest, simplest methods.

OT: weapons have always propagated based on ease of construction.  knives are by far the simplest metal weapon to construct, followed by spears and axes and, finally, by true swords.  Long, sharp, straight edged, and necessitating a hilt, swords were no easy task for the medieval smith!
« Last Edit: February 17, 2008, 12:57:43 am by Adarias »
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Re: [WIP] 32x48 Sword (novice)

Reply #18 on: February 17, 2008, 12:55:21 am


I like the bump better, and it's a simple sword.

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Re: [WIP] 32x48 Sword (novice)

Reply #19 on: February 17, 2008, 02:36:24 pm
noone is posting, a small update on shadows:

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(The update isn't big enough to go on steps)
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