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Male base

on: December 16, 2007, 04:11:33 pm
 :huh: I am confused and tiered.... this sprite here just dont want to come out well. Would like some help if possible.
Lower part of the body is sooo bad.... would you help me improve it?



Oh, and.... is his head too big?? :B
« Last Edit: December 16, 2007, 04:16:36 pm by Sabata »

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Re: Male base

Reply #1 on: December 16, 2007, 04:51:35 pm
Wow, thats excellent. Head looks fine to me, but if it worries you you can use the eight-heads tall rule for porportions.

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Re: Male base

Reply #2 on: December 16, 2007, 04:54:00 pm
eight-heads tall rule

six and a half heads is the size of an average adult human male.
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Re: Male base

Reply #3 on: December 16, 2007, 04:55:58 pm
eight-heads tall rule

six and a half heads is the size of an average adult human male.

That's a female.

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Re: Male base

Reply #4 on: December 16, 2007, 06:55:52 pm
There's short women, but that's not the average, I think.

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Re: Male base

Reply #5 on: December 19, 2007, 01:09:45 am
So many good artists went by but none left a comment on actually how does it looks.... well the person I am doing this liked it anywayss. :lol:
Before shading the other one, I would like some comments on how its form looks.


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Re: Male base

Reply #6 on: December 19, 2007, 04:44:19 am
most people are about 7 heads to the ankles i think, give or take.  Few are less than 7, and VERY few are 8.

the legs are strange to me, i tihnk you need a reference.  they are not noodles like many people do, but they aren't much more natural.
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Re: Male base

Reply #7 on: December 19, 2007, 10:46:03 am
I think the head is to big and the legs are very wide, in your case  to make head and legs better follow his body and arms proportion.

For example:





this video tutorial can help you with the human proportions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC-iHdTMNZM&feature=related

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Re: Male base

Reply #8 on: December 26, 2007, 01:36:55 am
Ugg.... how bad is this?




 :'( I am missing my old little sprites soooo mutch, and yea thats not male

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Re: Male base

Reply #9 on: December 26, 2007, 01:39:54 am


That's a profoundly bad graph and I actually detest how the 'everyman' is made to look like a twerp against the skintight spandex and underwear on top superhero next to it. And 'antihero' wtf? is this the Image Comics 90's? Taller is badder, 9 feet are bad enough to rescue the president?

Please get a real art book and don't learn the fundamentals of anatomy by bad superhero artists.

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This is also very bad!  :-\
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Re: Male base

Reply #10 on: December 26, 2007, 01:53:34 am
How bout this heigh chart?

http://fineart.sk/show.php?w=898

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Re: Male base

Reply #11 on: December 26, 2007, 02:45:23 am
http://www.xosize.com.au/images/content/anteriorMuscle.jpg this is good, just slap a head count on the side of it. Pluse you'll learn where the muscles are.

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Re: Male base

Reply #12 on: December 26, 2007, 02:48:13 am
How bout this heigh chart?

http://fineart.sk/show.php?w=898


I dunno about the rest of you guys, but I just found that to be really useful and saved it myself on my reference folder. Thanks Fizz.

Now onto the topic:
If you're striving for a more realistic look then yes, you should elongate the body to make him ~7 heads tall. If you don't mind your guy looking somewhat 'chibi' then you can just leave it as is.
What is looking off in your drawings for me is that the knee is too low in the leg, and both his thighs and ankles are way too thick. Also, his chest and abs, although really defined by the outline, have no depth at all. from the 6pack outline you gave him, I assume you want your guy to look fit. If that's the case you should protrude the chest forward from his torso to give it shape, and you should also make his belly go in a bit at the height of his bellybutton. This will help define his torso more. Also, from the way you drew his speedo, it looks like there is no space between his legs at all. If you feel you need an edit for reference, say the word and I'll give it a shot.
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Re: Male base

Reply #13 on: December 26, 2007, 03:03:12 am


There just aren't many good charts of this nature online, I've found. So I edited the above link with some useful things.

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Re: Male base

Reply #14 on: December 26, 2007, 01:41:08 pm
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If you feel you need an edit for reference, say the word and I'll give it a shot.

Word  :D

Yea sure, why not.... I made the head smaller sometime before, but the person didnt liked it, so I guess this style is ok... well maybe just a little diference wont hurt.

And thanks for the ref. they are great.

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Re: Male base

Reply #15 on: December 26, 2007, 03:22:49 pm
Ok edit time:
<--- Yours Mine --->
        

So Basically I gave the guy more definition in his legs and torso, and also even tough you said it wasn't needed, i tried adjusting his proportions just a bit. Elongated the torso and made the head smaller.

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Re: Male base

Reply #16 on: December 26, 2007, 03:28:18 pm


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female characters are 6.5 to 7 heads tall.  they can be exaggerated up to 12 heads tall, but not to add a sense of raw power so much as to promote a long legged sex appeal, grace, and a commanding presence.

What an idiot.
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Re: Male base

Reply #17 on: December 26, 2007, 03:53:14 pm
I thought the most idiotic part was right on the first paragraph when he basically said that people should conform to stereotypes and not try to break any molds. I half expected him to continue by saying that if your hero is a woman, her boobs need to be twice the size of her head... "You're not going to see heroine without huge tits. Not gonna happen."

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Re: Male base

Reply #18 on: December 26, 2007, 06:20:14 pm
15 head tall giant  :crazy:
what artist is that? truly terrible
I know Rob Liefeld is a popular target but look at the feet
it's package is bigger than it's head
it might be a one shot deal

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Re: Male base

Reply #19 on: December 26, 2007, 06:27:20 pm
Hmm… I feel that there is something wrong whit this comic’s style drawing but could someone tell me what’s sooo wrong on it? It doesn’t appear to be so horrible, but this is probably because I never was on comic’s style of drawing…. So a little tip? This is my thread after all!

Now to my little avatar… I modified my old one after learning from Caves edit… I could just watch and copy but I wouldn’t learn from that, so I just made mine following the idea, then I compared them.



Hes head is still a little too big... its around 6 head tall  ;D


And a complete ratation...

« Last Edit: December 28, 2007, 02:58:48 pm by Sabata »

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Re: Male base

Reply #20 on: January 04, 2008, 11:05:12 pm
Uhhh... female forms are so hard  :mean:
Any help on this would be apreciated.