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Very inaccurate and messy portrait.

on: December 02, 2007, 08:27:55 am
I'm not sure why I decided to make a Hideo Kojima pixel, but I tried, and I don't think he looks like Hideo after all of that.  I even screwed up the perspective.  I'm wondering about the quality of what I *did* work with, though, and anything that might save this.

I'm honestly not sure how to do the jacket yet.



References: Photo of Hideo Kojima, and a pencil drawing.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2007, 10:26:32 am by KittenMaster »

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Re: Very inaccurate and messy portrait.

Reply #1 on: December 02, 2007, 09:44:48 am
I think you're maybe focusing too much on making it look generic anime-ish instead of looking at Hideo Kojima's actual facial features. The things that need the most work at the moment are:
- The shape of the face. You have made his jaw very narrow. The actual face is much rounder at the jaw.
- The mouth. There is nothing wrong with drawing the actual shapes of the lips, like you would on a girl... instead of the kinda "lines + shadow" thing that you're doing and that is common in different anime styles.
- Eyes. They are looking pretty good, but they are not aligned, and Hideo's eyes are a bit smaller and more narrow.
- Nose needs alot of work. It looks a bit broken now. Don't be afraid of making it too big!

Otherwise: nice work, and keep it up!

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Re: Very inaccurate and messy portrait.

Reply #2 on: December 02, 2007, 10:28:17 am
Did I implement some changes successfully enough?  I also added some highlights because I want people to know Hideo has a chin and cheeks, which incidentally the same color helped with the eyes.

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Re: Very inaccurate and messy portrait.

Reply #3 on: December 02, 2007, 10:48:41 am
Please take away the hair for a second and show us the skull construction.

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Re: Very inaccurate and messy portrait.

Reply #4 on: December 02, 2007, 01:02:12 pm


I did something horribly wrong, didn't I?

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Re: Very inaccurate and messy portrait.

Reply #5 on: December 02, 2007, 01:18:48 pm
Please look at this anatomical chart.



Now let's never look at that again. Instead take this free class! And buy an art book.

The hair isn't resting on the head you showed us. And the facial characteristics take too much space in that head-construction.


edit: also, absurd but kinda useful hobby to have: FACE TRI - AN - GU - LA - TI - OOON

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Re: Very inaccurate and messy portrait.

Reply #6 on: December 02, 2007, 01:52:36 pm
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The hair isn't resting on the head you showed us.
I can see it now...  I ended up making the head look too tall because of the hair.

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And the facial characteristics take too much space in that head-construction.
So the face triangulation would be a good example of what to do right?

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Re: Very inaccurate and messy portrait.

Reply #7 on: December 02, 2007, 02:45:47 pm
No I don't think you should do this. But you should do practises that develop the planes of a volume you're going to shade. To see how it works under light. Faces, especially are very complex and have various planes getting hit by lightsources, yet most people just simplify them naively either because of manga or ineptitude or both to a 'flat plane with symbols for eyes and mouth on it'.

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Re: Very inaccurate and messy portrait.

Reply #8 on: December 02, 2007, 02:58:12 pm
I understand what you mean.  I'll just have to work at it while not using a bunch of colors, I guess.