AuthorTopic: [WIP] Small dragon. Animation. (Read 30245 times)

mangust · **on:** April 25, 2007, 11:41:55 am

This sketch for small dragons. I try to choose one of their.
Which one? Or maybe combination head from this one and body from other? I think on this, maybe anybody help with this not easily choose.
I will give live many of this sketch, but some later, now I must take one or maybe some repaint.

I have tile 32x64, later this dragon will be animated in this size tile (as a puppy from another my topic).

Gil · **Reply #1 on:** April 25, 2007, 11:44:50 am

I like 10 best, very cool pose and details.

Sohashu · **Reply #2 on:** April 25, 2007, 11:51:12 am

6 or 7 I would like to see animated the most. To me they seem more natural.

zeid · **Reply #3 on:** April 25, 2007, 12:34:44 pm

all look pretty good. I would rule out 2,3,4,5, and 9 as they don't seem to portray the dragon like character enough to me.

AdamAtomic · **Reply #4 on:** April 25, 2007, 01:59:18 pm

haha well to further gum up the works, i like 4 and 8 best

dragonrc · **Reply #5 on:** April 25, 2007, 02:08:29 pm

I like 7 and 11, 8 looks good to but the upper foot looks weird

willfaulds · **Reply #6 on:** April 25, 2007, 02:45:48 pm

haha seriously tough choice.

i say number 1's head and maybe 10's body.

my girlfriend says 11 as a baby dragon.

ndchristie · **Reply #7 on:** April 25, 2007, 04:41:14 pm

Quote from: willfaulds on April 25, 2007, 02:45:48 pm

haha seriously tough choice.

i say number 1's head and maybe 10's body.

my girlfriend says 11 as a baby dragon.

i completely agreed with this statement before i read it

Fernox · **Reply #8 on:** April 25, 2007, 10:28:38 pm

well, my first post. i think that number 10 has a great body but i dont like the head. i made a head using a base of the the head 11.

TA - DA !!!!!

it remember me spyro, a little dragon from a game XD (a fast colour of 30 seconds, without details, AA, and with the outline)

just an idea

bye

IMPORTANT: im from Chile, south America, and my english SUCK. sorry if i have bad english

. i will try to do my best next time. Bye

terminal_arcade · **Reply #9 on:** April 25, 2007, 11:21:42 pm

I definitely like 10 the best. The others' heads don't really convey the sharp, slick qualities I'd expect from a dragon. 8 is good too. I think the wings on these two are very good, and are necessary to make it really 'feel' like a dragon.

eck · **Reply #10 on:** April 25, 2007, 11:25:02 pm

8 or 10 is gud.

CrematedPumpkin · **Reply #11 on:** April 26, 2007, 01:41:38 am

Quote from: willfaulds on April 25, 2007, 02:45:48 pm

haha seriously tough choice.

i say number 1's head and maybe 10's body.

my girlfriend says 11 as a baby dragon.

Heh, I agree completely, as well.

(Not to be rude, but is the spell check is there for a reason, there's really no reason to say, "gud," in my opinion, but meh...)

Xion · **Reply #12 on:** April 26, 2007, 02:57:39 am

Uh, mayhap somtimes people like to misspell things just becuz?

10 all the way.

sharprm · **Reply #13 on:** April 26, 2007, 03:01:58 am

6 or 7 but with some tiny wings added.

kakikukeko · **Reply #14 on:** April 26, 2007, 07:25:05 am

are you looking for a small dragon , like a short dragon or a baby dragon?
for the first, I think 6, 8 and 10 are a good choice imo, 10 seems to be more adult than the others to me..
for baby dragons, 9 and 11..
difficult to chosse yeah..

mangust · **Reply #15 on:** April 26, 2007, 02:29:40 pm

Great thanks to answer and you voices!!!

It's help me I hope...
Now We have 2 finalist!
I choose and colour them.
Urghhh! Damn! It's NOT lighten my choise... Now I am think on this again

The color of skin will be a very many (and change by programm) - they will be one-colour and two-colour.
What you think about this skin?

Fernox Thanks! It's variant of very sweet dragon from you. I love them at first sight

9_6 · **Reply #16 on:** April 26, 2007, 03:30:28 pm

The head of the first one has a weird shape so I like the second of your coloured ones best.

Gil · **Reply #17 on:** April 26, 2007, 03:57:43 pm

Daddy dragon

Feron · **Reply #18 on:** April 26, 2007, 06:04:55 pm

10, 8, and 4. four looks pretty tanked up.

Sharm · **Reply #19 on:** April 26, 2007, 06:16:37 pm

Between those two, I like 2 better. 1's beak looks odd, like it'd get in his way. I like the green skin, the others don't have the hue shift for the secondary color, so it doesn't pop as much.

Very cute, I love dragons.

Fernox · **Reply #20 on:** April 26, 2007, 10:21:05 pm

wow, very good color
number 1 is very good, the volume in the face is very realistic
number 2, is very sweet XD, i really like it

my favorite colour? the dragon of the middle (blue), it has a very good contrast and it looks very detailed

bye (I really want to see in movement)

Snippa · **Reply #21 on:** April 26, 2007, 10:57:24 pm

Quote from: Gil on April 26, 2007, 03:57:43 pm

Daddy dragon

bigger wings Gil! very nice edit otherwise though

yosh64 · **Reply #22 on:** April 27, 2007, 12:23:22 am

hey

I would say 10 for an older male dragon, 8 for an older female dragon, and 11 for a baby dragon

.

cyas

mangust · **Reply #23 on:** April 27, 2007, 11:11:11 am

Quote from: Gil on April 26, 2007, 03:57:43 pm

Daddy dragon

Nice, man!
It's a serious daddy, very serious... Yes the dragon will be grow, not only face but and with body too... Thank you!
In black skin he is very demoniacal

Quote from: Feron on April 26, 2007, 06:04:55 pm

10, 8, and 4. four looks pretty tanked up.

Tanked?

Something like this:

At long last, they both a very like me and I will animated they both!!! I am

tired choose ))
1 be a Boy.
2 will be a Girl.
They will be have similar animation, because he different only a head - and animation not many to differ from each other, but... man and woman movements is some different...

Hehe, Just need to start and will see...
Thank you, ladys and gentlemans!!

Feron · **Reply #24 on:** April 27, 2007, 11:16:09 pm

i meant tanked, as in "like a tank", pretty beefy/ muscley.

eck · **Reply #25 on:** April 27, 2007, 11:35:01 pm

by tanked he ment strong. like nothing can get in its way.

@ theguywhocritisizedmyspelling: if i spell things wrong like that, its most likely on purpose, so dont sweat it.

dragonrc · **Reply #26 on:** April 28, 2007, 09:21:15 am

Wow, very good

One thing though, I think the red dragon looks better with one extra color:

I just recolored the green dragons, but I think it looks better this way.
Feel free to use this edit

mangust · **Reply #27 on:** May 16, 2007, 02:44:09 pm

AT LAST!!!
I am finished other task - now time to animate dragons!!!
The first sketch animation for the boy:
on surface:

in stripe:

I like this motion, but this motion - it's small jumps, i tried do another motion like a varan (giant lizard), maybe this will be more useful... will see.

dragonrc Thanks - after you edit, i think a one-color skin is unless, just all colors will be with light front side (like on you edit)
Feron Sorry, if I not correct understand you ))
Please comment ))

Turbo · **Reply #28 on:** May 16, 2007, 06:30:02 pm

Very nice, although I think a more lizard-like animation would be more easily recognizable, this reminds me more of a dog run animation...

If you decide to keep this, i suggest making his head move forward and down more with each step, showing more weight, and make the forward paws step further front, and cross his back legs when he takes a step with the hind legs (like racing dogs do while running).

Snippa · **Reply #29 on:** May 16, 2007, 10:09:53 pm

This actually looks more like how a rabbit would move rather than a large lizard.
Maybe studying the movements of a kimodo dragon would help some?

mangust · **Reply #30 on:** May 17, 2007, 08:37:47 am

Quote from: Turbo on May 16, 2007, 06:30:02 pm

Very nice, although I think a more lizard-like animation would be more easily recognizable, this reminds me more of a dog run animation...

If you decide to keep this, i suggest making his head move forward and down more with each step, showing more weight, and make the forward paws step further front, and cross his back legs when he takes a step with the hind legs (like racing dogs do while running).

No about head, but Yes about other, most likely. )) Maybe I decide this move, but for dragon-girl. And I have only 32x64 for animation - I fear this not enough for long throw of back legs, but I am try.

Quote from: Snippa on May 16, 2007, 10:09:53 pm

This actually looks more like how a rabbit would move rather than a large lizard.
Maybe studying the movements of a kimodo dragon would help some?

Yes komodo dragon, large lizard - next move will be something like this...

mangust · **Reply #31 on:** May 18, 2007, 03:03:05 pm

Skecth animation - it's look like a giant lizard?
Which of type animation is more appropriate for this?

Maybe less head bounce? But on surface he is look not too bad...

ndchristie · **Reply #32 on:** May 18, 2007, 07:45:31 pm

if hes going to lope, his forlegs need to come down farther, he doesnt look like hes actually touching the ground.

mangust · **Reply #33 on:** May 21, 2007, 03:30:51 pm

Fixed some moments:
Thanks Adarias, it's better? If I right understand you.

As I say earlier, I use small jump's for animation girl-dragon. And fixed some frame - something as you say, Turbo.

Maybe need the same animation for both?

Sharm · **Reply #34 on:** May 21, 2007, 04:24:13 pm

You might. The guy dragon looks like he's trying to sneak somewhere, those are very large strides.

Chaos Tayoko · **Reply #35 on:** May 21, 2007, 10:55:10 pm

I love your animations. I like the guy animation, maybe ass a more serpent-like tone to it. And if you ever decide to animate another, Go for #4 and make him buffer and more armored, cool like. Like some kind of Rhino/Armordillo Dragon.

mangust · **Reply #36 on:** June 07, 2007, 02:10:36 pm

Thank, Sharm! Yes!! Sneak somewhere is funnily, it's good! Yes, it's large step, but now I cann't do step smaller (( He most move on 2 tiles.
Chaos Tayoko - " ...ass a more serpent-like tone to it..." Maybe is will be in color vertion, I do this soon...

So... What you think about sketch for jump?

Chalk · **Reply #37 on:** June 07, 2007, 07:54:23 pm

Oooo i am liking it so far. maybe you should have him flap his wings and hover for a momment before he starts falling.

piotrek255 · **Reply #38 on:** June 07, 2007, 10:12:29 pm

add one extra frame showing his front arms pushing to the ground even more. For a jump like that he needs to push with his front arms more than that. I would also add one extra frame to make his back(rear part of the character) one pixel higher.

LoTekK · **Reply #39 on:** June 07, 2007, 11:28:04 pm

In addition to what piotrek said, I think his landing could be more staggered, either with his front or hind legs landing before the other pair. I'm loving the animations so far, though; super adorable.

mangust · **Reply #40 on:** June 08, 2007, 11:12:58 am

Yes I think you right guys, I am try it and this look much better

Chalk: it's good idea, but this must be a just jump, not attempt to fly. He is will be to fly, but something later ))

Colored walk version

Turbo · **Reply #41 on:** June 11, 2007, 03:07:16 pm

Great animation, as usual from you

Minor stuff, if you've got the time and interest:
On the walking anim, the head seems to pop around too much, i'd try to make it smoother (maybe simulate some subpixel movement, reptiles tend to be very fluid on their movement). Maybe make the head move one frame later than the body, to simulate some bouncyness and dampening of the body movement (as any creature moves, the body tries to dampen the shocks and bumps from the floor, so that it doesn't get headaches with jittery movement

).

On the jumping anim, it looks nice. I'd suggest on the frame where he's falling to the ground, stretching the lizard (with some deformation) to show the speed of the movement.

mangust · **Reply #42 on:** June 14, 2007, 02:21:46 pm

Dragon say "No!"

Variation of lie. Maybe first position more readability? But second more impressive. The third it's a something strange, maybe put head under wing...

Position - sit.

He is very like something (like a fawn from dogs).

Move for girl-dragon

Fot Turbo:
Thanks! head on walk is pop around, because it's displacement this sprite on surface is constant (4 down, 2 forward pixels). And when put this animation from surface to stripe, than you see head bounce, but on surface this is not the case, if I right understand you ))))
For jumping, I think I try it.

dragonrc · **Reply #43 on:** June 14, 2007, 02:44:38 pm

Fo the happy animation, maybe move the head back and forward a little bit.
The rest looks good to me, keep up the good work

mangust · **Reply #44 on:** June 18, 2007, 03:19:25 pm

Dragonrc, I am try do this step like a giant lizard, and he is not move head when he creep, but thanks, i try it, maybe it's better... maybe... I donn't know now ))
More animation:
Colored jump with improved landing:

Animation for lie:

Dragon want playing )) Nice, but something strange in his move wings and face maybe more happy?...

His be tired:

Dragon is feel angry:

And sketch for very wrathful. Not finish last frames, need added one or two in end stripe for landing. And this fire is NOT big, because stripe have only the 32 px for width ((( Becuase I am do some deformation for his body... Something thinks?:

crab2selout.png · **Reply #45 on:** June 18, 2007, 08:51:58 pm

I like your angry animation. I'd like to see it with no head movement or slight head movement of a pixel only. This way I think it'd seem even angrier by drawing more attention to the nose flaring.

Feron · **Reply #46 on:** June 18, 2007, 09:38:44 pm

Quote from: crab2selout.png on June 18, 2007, 08:51:58 pm

This way I think it'd seem even angrier by drawing more attention to the nose flaring.

i agree, i think slower head movements would make it seem like its taking deep breaths. A lot more emphasise on the nose flare and perhaps the head should go backward instead of up/down.

hopoo · **Reply #47 on:** June 19, 2007, 02:43:40 am

the lie animation looks a bit like his arm is stretchy, probably because his elbows and upper arms dont move?

mangust · **Reply #48 on:** June 19, 2007, 02:18:54 pm

Yes, you right, guys )) Without head moving been first variant (not put here), I am alter him.. why? I donn't Know. The brain is out, maybe ))

hopoo - Strange, I think they move, nevertheless?! Donn't really?

some WIP for expiration fire:

rabidbaboy · **Reply #49 on:** June 20, 2007, 11:47:52 am

These are all great animations.

On the angry animation, try making the ends of his wings flap back a little, see if that looks better.

The firebreathing animation is looking good, except I don't like how his hands jerk like that. Maybe let them jerk outstretched all the way back?

mangust · **Reply #50 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:28:24 pm

rabidbaboy With angry, yes, nice idea.Thank you!
About jerk hands - not understand correctly

, his articulation hand like a dog, and if move him to back - it's brake him

WIP firebreathing

piotrek255 · **Reply #51 on:** June 20, 2007, 04:22:25 pm

truly amazing, but this fire breath animation could be a little bit slower, i mean, his head moves too much and too fast

chigsam · **Reply #52 on:** June 22, 2007, 01:20:44 pm

i like it! although is it truly likely that its head will stay in the exact same position? not turning on its side a little or moving up? just straight forward and back?

mangust · **Reply #53 on:** June 22, 2007, 03:26:45 pm

piotrek255 I give some delay, but I think it not need more, because it's must be some like a scare anybody, not attack.

chigsam Thank you! Yes head still in same position - because he use his head like a crosshair and firebreathing do mainly with help a body, not throw fire by head. Of course if I understand correctly you message )))

Also added light on hands, face and belly
WIP firebreathing (I hope this fin)

->

Fix playing:

->

Fix move wing in angry:

->

Eat something:

PypeBros · **Reply #54 on:** June 25, 2007, 04:08:25 pm

the "playing" jump was better without the doggish tong, imho.

(oh, did i mention it is absolutely cute and amazing already ?)

dragonrc · **Reply #55 on:** June 25, 2007, 08:06:42 pm

Wow, the firebreathing is looking so good

My only crit is that it looks like the dragon only has 3 legs in the eating animation.

robalan · **Reply #56 on:** June 26, 2007, 02:01:25 pm

I've gotta pop in here and agree with others who are saying that this is nice. The only crits I can see are ones that others have brought up: the tongue in the playing animation looks strange and his front-left leg is missing in the eating animation. I really like the firebreathing animation; the fading is very well done. The only thing I might crit on that is that it doesn't go very far. If the fire sprays out that far in one frame, I'd think it would maintain at least a little momentum and keep moving rather than suddenly stopping. It looks nice as it is, but I think it would be even better if it continued to move forward as it faded.

These look quite nice; I look forward to seeing more if such exitst.

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