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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #440 on: May 19, 2007, 10:42:38 pm
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How long till the gameplay is boring?

Probably a long while, seeing as my friends and I still do Halo 2 system link get-togethers all the time.

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Reply #441 on: May 20, 2007, 12:44:52 am
Indeed. One of the things I miss the most since I moved here (in September last year) has been split-screen multiplayer Halo 2 with two of my best friends. With a good group of close friends, Halo 2 never gets old. In fact, sometimes we still do some Halo 1 co-op for old times' sake. That never really gets old either, amazingly. It feels different enough to make me prefer Halo 2, but the first game's co-op still surprises me with how awesome it is.

Halo 3 will be no different, especially judging by how the beta feels. It's like a golden combination of the first two games, with superb new graphics, awesome new weapons and all kinds of other cool stuff. Not to mention we finally get to finish the damn fight.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #443 on: May 20, 2007, 12:47:30 am
Wow thats pretty sweet helm :D

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #444 on: May 20, 2007, 02:41:49 am
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #445 on: May 20, 2007, 03:21:37 am
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Probably a long while, seeing as my friends and I still do Halo 2 system link get-togethers all the time.

I haven't played past halo1, the series never stood out to me after my experience there. It's just a traditional whoop-de-do shooter. sure, fps fans can spend hours upon hours playing it, but it doesn't make it good. There are just as many people calling halo shit as people kissing Bungie's ass.

To me it just seems mediocre. Game developers are really losing their edge. Bring back ingenuity. Bring back innovation. I want to play a game that doesn't leave me feeling like I've wasted 2 hours just aiming for people's heads. A game should be more than that.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #446 on: May 20, 2007, 05:02:43 am
I'm still up for discussing halo :P
for me, it reminds me a lot about goldeneye.
I remember staying up all night with my friends, covering up the radar's with tape, inventing crazy games to play with goldeneye, and now me and my friends do that with halo, grenade only matches, beat down only, oddball with 3 skulls, its great.
another thing I like is how the game isn't completely focused on shooting, it is pretty unbalanced, but all the different vehicles and different ways to attack make the game pretty unique.
there are even instances where it reminds me of streetfighter, say you see someone really far away, and you start running to each other, any other FPS you'd be shooting them the whole time, but say you've got a shotgun, you know you can't afford to waste ammo at that range, and your best bet is to jump and shoot then beat down.

but like I said, the game has a ton of flaws, but they can thankfully be ironed out if you force them out, and the bungie team have said many times theyre basically ashamed of the halo2 multiplayer, how broken it is etc
so i have high hopes for halo3.. the multiplayer atleast
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #447 on: May 20, 2007, 10:53:12 am
the hours of halo 2 multiplayer i have done is rediculously high.  once you get into it, its incredibly addictive.  When none of your friends are there - just connect to XBL and play with some dumb american 14 year olds :P

There are quite a few glitches on lots of maps - but they can be good if you know how to use them.

one of my friends has confiscated my 360 off me till exams are over, probably a good thing now the H3 beta i out.

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Reply #448 on: May 20, 2007, 12:54:38 pm
heheh, the "super jumps"  :P
the kind of glitches I think enhance the game... a shame they made it impossible in the recently released maps
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread

Reply #449 on: May 20, 2007, 01:33:41 pm
I haven't played past halo1, the series never stood out to me after my experience there. It's just a traditional whoop-de-do shooter. sure, fps fans can spend hours upon hours playing it, but it doesn't make it good. There are just as many people calling halo shit as people kissing Bungie's ass.

To me it just seems mediocre. Game developers are really losing their edge. Bring back ingenuity. Bring back innovation. I want to play a game that doesn't leave me feeling like I've wasted 2 hours just aiming for people's heads. A game should be more than that.

Let me rant about this for a while! I love ranting about things I like, see. And I've gotten way too little sleep lately...

Anyway. Halo doesn't stand out unless you play it a lot, that's the weird thing. Before its release, I thought it looked boring. Then I tried it, and I just couldn't manage the controls, and it felt really slow (mind you, that's around the time I was playing Counter-Strike). So then I bought it, played it, was amazed and confused at the storyline. A thing that was rare in shooters back in 2002, and something that doesn't come across from reading impressions and looking at gameplay videos. And then me and one of my best friends played co-op... and things would never be the same again. You know, the last time I played Halo 1 co-op was earlier this year. It's just incredible how much fun it becomes once you both start working as a team, and crank up the difficulty slightly higher than any of you can do alone.

And in a really tactical game where every weapon is set up in a rock-paper-scissors fashion and you can only ever carry two, having a teammate suddenly makes it even more strategic. It goes from being a game that you might think you can probably just run around with the assault rifle aiming at heads until you're done, to something much more complex. Now you've got four possible weapons at the same time, but usually where there's a power weapon lying around (rocket launcher or sniper rifle), there's only one. And that makes the two players assume very different roles. If I grab the sniper rifle, you can bet I'll play MUCH more cautiously than I like doing on co-op while my friend runs up with the assault rifle to flush the enemies out. My friend always grabs the rocket launcher, though, because he rules with that thing. So he's the anti-vehicle anti-air dude while I cover him from infantry.

And then there's those awesome sneak sections in Assault on the Control Room which are MUCHLY enhanced because of the slight randomization in Halo. Every cluster of enemies is slightly randomized. Sometimes you'll encounter two elites instead of one, but when there's only one he'll be of a higher rank and possibly more dangerous. And their starting position when you enter a room is also pretty random. So, during that part where there's a ton of sleeping grunts and two patrolling elites, I tend to try to clear the entire room without firing off a round. It's really hard, but it's extremely satisfying. And if that fails, my friend comes rushing with the rocket launcher, I die, he hides, I respawn and we clear the room.

Halo didn't really invent much new stuff in the genre, but it was definitely the first to combine so many different ideas and make them all work near-flawlessly. And it kicked off the rechargable health things in games that every game and it's grandma use now. The two weapon limit and the fact that ALL weapons are useful in certain circumstances gives it an incredible tactical depth. Never in the game is one particular weapon completely useless. And actually, the very first weapon you get is the most useful in the game, which is definitely fresh compared to games where you get the only good weapon on the second to last level. And not only do the weapons themselves have a rock-paper-scissors system, but the enemies kinda do, too. There are primarily two kinds of weapons, plasma and projectile. And there are primarily... well, a whole bunch of enemies. Shielded, unshielded, portable shield and mechanical. Plasma works against shields, projectiles work against flesh. You'll want to finish off an enemy with a portable shield using projectiles, and a mechanical enemy is best fought with plasma weapons. And you can only ever carry two...

Throwing grenades without having to change weapons also felt pretty revolutionizing. I never used grenades in games before Halo. Did I mention the storyline was amazing? Oh, also, you drive vehicles! A car, a hovercraft, a tank and a flying alien machine! Useful non-linear vehicle paths in an FPS! And then there's the multiplayer, but I feel this is enough text for one post. I'm done ranting now. It felt good. I'm just saying, chances are, if you have the ability to not dislike an FPS, you'd probably love Halo if you'd given it a try or three. I can't see why anyone would dislike it unless he can't stand first person games in general.