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HELP ME QUIT MSPAINT!

on: March 22, 2007, 12:22:49 am
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Okay, I'm getting real sick and tired of MSPaint, as it causes my workflow to go SLOW AS HELL.

Right now, I'm using a combo of Photoshop (Only when necessary, about 30% of the time) and MSPaint (unfortunately, 70% of the time).

I'm so stuck on this piece of dog doodoo for a few reasons:

*Quick canvas resizing (just grab and move the corner dots)
*Copy and paste within the same layer (since there's only one layer...)
*Line Tool actually shows you what it's going to draw, as opposed to showing you a guess as Photoshop does...
*NO ANTI-ALIASING AT ALL!
*ImageReady is a shit , IMO. Layer system makes no sense, and adding a layer adds it to EVERY FRAME.
*Large, square brushes (as opposed to PS's constantly circle-shaped pencil tool).
*No pixel grid (as far as I know) in PS

So, I'm hoping you guys can help me out with this... my choices seem to be:

A) Help me figure out how to pull these off in Photoshop:

-Turn off Anti-Aliasing for everything (not just fill tool and pencil tool - EVERYTHING).
-Rotate and/or resize (not ImageSize, mind you..) with Transform Controls w/out AAing...
-Paste WITHIN layers (rather than creating a new layer, combining with the next layer, then moving it around... what a chore!).
-Make Line Tool show what it's going to do before it does it in pixels.
-Change pencil tool to be square (I'm sure this one's easy - I just don't know it, though)
-Turn a pixel grid (similar to the zoom in Ctrl+G grid of MSPaint)

Or option B) Learn another program. I'd really rather not - I've gotten attached to photoshop despite all these annoying flaws. I do have a demo of ProMotion 5, but it makes no sense to me right now  :blind:
I tried GraphicsGale awhile ago, but that one made no sense either, and the menus were all screwed up... is there a translation patch or something? So if I'm gonna go with this one, I'd like:

-Some links to tutorials for ProMotion or GraphicsGale (I looked through the big topic that's stickied, but all I saw was a link to the programs themselves...)
-And your opinion on which program is better for what.

Whew! I know that's alot, but if you can help with ANY of those things, I'd much appreciate it, and you'd know that one person out there is one step closer to dropping MSPaint from theire repertoire...

Thanks in advance!
« Last Edit: March 22, 2007, 01:09:47 am by Rynen10K »

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Re: HELP ME QUIT MSPAINT!

Reply #1 on: March 22, 2007, 12:34:09 am
http://bigbluebubble.com/pixeltutorial/chapter14.htm

Tsugumo's tutorial on how to do pixel art in Photoshop...

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Re: HELP ME QUIT MSPAINT!

Reply #2 on: March 22, 2007, 12:35:25 am
For square brushes, go to the brushes palette.  In the top right corner, theres a > that when you click on it pulls up a menu.  Click the one that says "load brushes" or something similar.  Direct it to the photoshop folder on your computer, then I believe it's "goodies/brushes"  In that folder there's a set of square brushes.  I hope that's right, this is from memory (I'm not on my own computer right now).

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Re: HELP ME QUIT MSPAINT!

Reply #3 on: March 22, 2007, 01:03:55 am
http://bigbluebubble.com/pixeltutorial/chapter14.htm

Tsugumo's tutorial on how to do pixel art in Photoshop...

Holy crap, I thought this thing went down YEARS ago... awesome to see it's up, though! :)

Anyway, I knew about most of those hotkeys, but there are a few new ones in there I didn't know that could come in handy... thanks!

I'm guessing I have to get used to the CTRL+E thing, though...oh well. Guess it's not too big of an obstacle.

Anyone know how to get that grid up, though? And anything about the line tool? I think I use that thing more than I should...

EDIT: AH! Here's a new one! Rotate and/or resize (not ImageSize, mind you..) with Transform Controls w/out AAing...
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Re: HELP ME QUIT MSPAINT!

Reply #4 on: March 22, 2007, 01:23:51 am
It's never been down, it just changed hosting from time to time. Google is your friend...

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Re: HELP ME QUIT MSPAINT!

Reply #5 on: March 22, 2007, 01:44:43 pm
For square brushes, go to the brushes palette.  In the top right corner, theres a > that when you click on it pulls up a menu.  Click the one that says "load brushes" or something similar.  Direct it to the photoshop folder on your computer, then I believe it's "goodies/brushes"  In that folder there's a set of square brushes.  I hope that's right, this is from memory (I'm not on my own computer right now).

I tried it, and it works for the Brush tool, but doesn't seem to apply to the pencil tool... I'm sure there's a way though.

It's never been down, it just changed hosting from time to time. Google is your friend...

Yeah, I should've done a bit more reasearch before creating this topic  :crazy: I just wrote it up quickly out of frustration.

I just saw that Tsugumo's tutorial and a ton of others are in the stickied help topic. D'oh.

Thanks for the help, though! I think I'm getting a little more used to this... I still want to give GG a try again, though.

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Re: HELP ME QUIT MSPAINT!

Reply #6 on: March 22, 2007, 04:05:29 pm
That's odd, it should.  What version of Photoshop do you have?

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Re: HELP ME QUIT MSPAINT!

Reply #7 on: March 22, 2007, 07:42:42 pm
CS2. It should be doing it, but I'm probably messing something up  :P

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Re: HELP ME QUIT MSPAINT!

Reply #8 on: March 22, 2007, 09:00:08 pm
Or maybe it's just that version of photoshop.  I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with it.  Maybe someone else could help.

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Re: HELP ME QUIT MSPAINT!

Reply #9 on: March 22, 2007, 09:34:49 pm
Anyone know how to get that grid up, though? And anything about the line tool? I think I use that thing more than I should...
Can't be done in PS but why would you need a grid anyway?
To draw lines, click on a posistion with the pencil tool, hold shift and click to another position.
It will draw a line from position 1 to 2.
Took me 2 years to notice that  :crazy:
Unfortunately there is no linetool with a preview (like in paint) in photoshop but that's about the only disadvantage Photoshop has (if you know how to get rid of the interpolation).
Photoshop is a fine tool for pixeling.
Does scaling an image blur it?
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