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I heart Virginia

on: February 17, 2007, 09:02:00 pm


.WIP.

I was bored of trying isometric stuff for Pixelator so I started this for fun. So, following Skurwy and Lackey, here's Virginia.

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #1 on: February 17, 2007, 09:19:10 pm
Heigten the forhead and move the eyes more upward.

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #2 on: February 17, 2007, 09:36:30 pm
The chin is just slightly too angular.

And I agree that the forehead needs to be heightened, but I'm not sure about the need for raising the eyes. The eyes looks about right as far as placement goes. They're at a slightly different angle than the reference, probably caused by the straight vertical line on the visible eye. I think the shadow in the middle of her face could be diffused more.

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #3 on: February 18, 2007, 09:46:47 am
Thank you for the crits! I adjusted the forehead a bit, tell me what you think about, but didn't move the eyes upwards because I had them like that before and didn't look correct. I tried to fix their angle though.

On a sidenote, which palette should I use?

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #4 on: February 18, 2007, 11:00:36 am
I'd love to see it finished, I don't have any critique at the moment.

Hmm, I would use the high-intensity CGA#2 variant, but it's your piece. Thinking of modernism (in terms of art), I guess it'd match its spirit the best;

alternatively the previous bright 'gray-blue-purple-black' one.

Unfortunately, I haven't read any of her books. Which one would you recommend? :)
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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #5 on: February 18, 2007, 11:24:44 am


Skurwy: Thanks! Well, I also like the high-intensity CGA#2 variant alot but, for some reason, I don't feel like it goes well with Virginia Woolf...I guess this is something I'll end up deciding just before I finish the piece, I must give it some thought.
I only read "Mrs.Dalloway" (translated too :( ) because it is the only book from her I was able to find in my parents collection. Besides, I'm too caught in Henry James and spending too much money on Cocorosie and Au Revoir Simone CD's at the moment to look for more stuff by her. Nevertheless, I found it extremely interesting, even if a little hard to understand in parts (I'm not very bright though, so that might be just me). Her mind is a bit disturbing too :sry:

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I hope this thread isn't drifting into...forgetness?
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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #6 on: February 19, 2007, 08:47:33 pm
Looks great! However i believe she needs a smaller nose, chin and larger top of the head bit.  :y:

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #7 on: February 19, 2007, 09:25:54 pm
Looks great! However i believe she needs a smaller nose, chin and larger top of the head bit.  :y:

Hmm.. I see your point, and back you up on the rather large chin, but the head seems ok to me. I might be blind though, so who knows.

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #8 on: February 19, 2007, 09:35:33 pm
No, he's right. Flathead.

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #9 on: February 20, 2007, 09:49:16 am


Is this better, guys? I didn't mess much with the nose, I think it's fine as it is :)

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I believe I'm done with this. About the palette, I'm not quite sure...thoughts?
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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #10 on: February 20, 2007, 03:08:48 pm


I think the front of the head needs to be a little bit higher.  Also, the curve of the neck in the back of the head should definitely be moved farther down and to the right.  Look at that line of the back of the neck objectively.  It's all over the place.

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #11 on: February 20, 2007, 03:16:47 pm
The forehead should be higher, yes. But the neck is pretty much ok, that dark stuff overlapping it is her hair. I don't see a problem with that.
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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #12 on: February 20, 2007, 11:54:37 pm
agree with ptoing; I 'heart' your Virginia!

I'm sticking to my 'high-intensity CGA#2' line for the palette: that just looks perfect! Those bluish patterns taste a little too much melancholic, dull, or maybe even sombre as for my taste buds. But again, you should know better as I haven't ever read her.

Consider the fact you can always customize the palette a little, just like ie. Helm did on his lastest avathing. Read the IBM PC/CGA section at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_palettes for some details.
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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #13 on: February 21, 2007, 01:35:13 am
The chin still needs shrinking, I think.

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #14 on: February 21, 2007, 04:19:24 am
But the neck is pretty much ok, that dark stuff overlapping it is her hair.
Oh, I see.  My eyes misread that.

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #15 on: February 21, 2007, 09:06:31 am

Everyone seems to prefer this set of colours, so I think I'll stick with them from now on.

Ptoing and Faktablad: I hope that forehead thing (that everybody's been mentioning for so long and I seem to have ignored :-[) is now fixed. Let me know if it is not...

Skurwy: Thanks! Looks like you've convinced me on the palette issue ;)
About customizing the palette...it seems I'd have to give up the dark grey if I wanted another colour...or did I misread it?

mccow: Really? I was this was already good enough :(

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #16 on: February 21, 2007, 12:45:15 pm

Everyone seems to prefer this set of colours, so I think I'll stick with them from now on.

Ptoing and Faktablad: I hope that forehead thing (that everybody's been mentioning for so long and I seem to have ignored :-[) is now fixed. Let me know if it is not...

Skurwy: Thanks! Looks like you've convinced me on the palette issue ;)
About customizing the palette...it seems I'd have to give up the dark grey if I wanted another colour...or did I misread it?

mccow: Really? I was this was already good enough :(
Heighten the forhead please

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #17 on: February 21, 2007, 01:45:16 pm


I don't know about likeness, as I don't know what Virginia Wolf looked like, but what you have going though it looks good, seems to suffer from the facial characteristics being disproportionate and placed strangely. The thing about the forehead, you didn't really adress it as much as you could have from your first post to your last, dunno if the edit is useful for that, as I said, it comes down to likeness and boy, are real human faces sometimes very 'unrealistic', but from a point of view of good facial construction, I tweaked stuff.

Also, the way the nose and eyes are placed seems to suggest an angle that the mouth and chin do not follow, if you can see what I mean. I tried to adress this in my edit but I didn't do it well enough.

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #18 on: February 21, 2007, 08:58:32 pm

Ok, I just took the easy way out of this trouble. The hair could probably use some more size adjustments, but I'll leave it as it is. I'm having headaches for working too much on this :-X

Helm: Actually, even though it reminded me of an alien-like creature at first, your edit was quite helpful in the sense that it made me see how bad mine was. Hopefully, it should all be better now...Thanks!

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Re: I heart Virginia

Reply #19 on: February 22, 2007, 12:34:11 am
Much better. Also keep in mind that you can replace colour 0 (what you have grey) which normally is b lack by default to any of the 16 cga colours.

The middle row obviously.


Made some viable colourcombos (the rightmost column is a hack palette which was not official but still perfectly fine to use)
I personally like the very last one best.
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