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[Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

on: December 22, 2006, 10:14:07 am
hey guys,
I'm still fairly knew to the community and am hoping to improve. i have started a pixel signature and need a bit of help. i am not sure where to go from here...

I would love your opinions, CC, and ideas thanks
~and2

update:
skin..


bad update  :(:


update:


update:

(thanks Ryumaru and Senad for the helpful edits)

update:

« Last Edit: December 28, 2006, 12:38:35 am by and2 »

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #1 on: December 22, 2006, 10:23:27 am
Nice lineart. I think you need to redo the shading. The shading on the cape suggests a light source from the right, yet if this was the case
then the cape would be in shadow. Thats its main problem.
Modern artists are told that they must create something totally original-or risk being called "derivative".They've been indoctrinated with the concept that bad=good.The effect is always the same: Meaningless primitivism
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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #2 on: December 22, 2006, 04:55:10 pm
This is pretty darn sweet for a Runescape signature  ;D Dynamic pose, nifty whip, long green coat!

Assorted crits:

-- I think the head is too small?
-- As mentioned, your lightsource needs to be better defined. You've got some tricky shading with the cloak but I'm confident you can do it :)
-- You're using *wayyyy* too many colors, especially for this stage of the piece. Try to trim out the colors that you don't need -- it will make edits easier. Once you block out the basic shading in 2 or three colors, *then* think about whether you want more colors.


Looking forward to an update -- this is nice. :)

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #3 on: December 22, 2006, 05:13:34 pm
Very good quality for a RS related signeture, the quality of peoples work seems to diminish when dealing with runescape for some reason..., the only things I see at initial glance, are

-to small head (already mentioned)
-the whip, I don't think it should bend in mid air,it might bend on the gound, but not if it is handing off of a cliff, the ending would be straight

but, an overall nice job :)
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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #4 on: December 22, 2006, 05:39:44 pm
you're dithering is only giving your character a lot of unwanted texture, you are using so many colours so dithering in most areas wouldn't make a difference, I find it funny that people think dithering is like a necessity with pixel sigs, it's just not, only dither where needed to smoothen the transition between two colours or to purposely give texture to an object, you've just dithered everything and everywhere. Take your characters head for example, you've dithered were you could have been using the shades to define the shape of his nose, eyes, cheeks.. you definately need more contrast in your colours, and only dither after you think your shading is correct, and see if there are any areas you think 'need' it.

your colour choices are dark, and your lighter green tones don't compliment, it just looks like green velvet. your character's skin is very yellow, add some tones of red, blues in your shadowing, no nothing 'too' obvious.. I've said that and people have just chosen bright blue as a shadow. when you're selecting your shades, don't be scared to move your selector left or right slightly into other Hues, it'll make a hell of a lotta difference..

His chest muscles don't look right, and Im thinking his head is too small. otherwise this is a better quality than I've seen from others in the past (with runescape signatures). I see you're trying to get it too look more realistic, the only way to do that is to look at 'reality' look up reference pictures, get the muscles right, observe body positions, test colour combinations just anything to get it looking how you want it to look.
I've not got anything interesting to type here..

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #5 on: December 22, 2006, 06:01:12 pm
A signature with this size :O? Doesn't it get a bit uncomfortable to browse the forums?

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #6 on: December 22, 2006, 07:32:53 pm
The party hat looks like it is about to fall off of his head and at the top where it connects it looks like his skull is actually dented in.  Other than that it looks really good :D  If you sell it like most people do you will get well over 10 mil for it.

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #7 on: December 23, 2006, 01:44:51 am
Well here is a small update on the skin. I still need to work on all the other things you guys have commented on.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2006, 04:13:48 am by and2 »

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #8 on: December 23, 2006, 03:10:37 am
 :n: :n:oh god No. :n: :n:

change
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[img]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/197/helponskin2qy1.png[/img]
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[img]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/197/helponskin2qy1.png[/img]

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #9 on: December 23, 2006, 04:10:10 am
:n: :n:oh god No. :n: :n:

change
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[img]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/197/helponskin2qy1.png[/img]
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[img]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/197/helponskin2qy1.png[/img]


Thanks..  ;)
sorry about that  :'(

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #10 on: December 23, 2006, 06:24:26 am
Update, i was trying to colour the bottom half of the robe, but i have no idea what i am doing. could someone please help me out? ???

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Reply #11 on: December 23, 2006, 10:27:59 am
Update again:


CC please. hmm. something doesnt look right?

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #12 on: December 23, 2006, 04:42:49 pm
I don't like the black outlines. Use a dark colour but never full black.

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #13 on: December 23, 2006, 05:29:28 pm
That's one Picasso-like face.
Bring the ear up, eyes are a bit to the right aswell.

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #14 on: December 23, 2006, 07:35:29 pm
youve got many colors that can be used much more than how you have them now. also, youve clothed the figure so much, that the proportions are unreadable, but they are very off. my edit is still way to exaggerated to be even slightly realistic.

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Reply #15 on: December 25, 2006, 01:33:45 am
youve got many colors that can be used much more than how you have them now. also, youve clothed the figure so much, that the proportions are unreadable, but they are very off. my edit is still way to exaggerated to be even slightly realistic.


 :y:

by the way.. make the whip just little fater where hes holding it.. Also if you add a hair, would make his head little bigger, becouse atm it looks too too small ;)

here a bit
« Last Edit: December 27, 2006, 03:05:25 am by Senad »
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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #16 on: December 27, 2006, 11:04:02 am
update:

(thanks Ryumaru and Senad for the helpful edits)

uhmm, the cape. I killed the cape  :'(   :n:
help?

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #17 on: December 27, 2006, 11:05:39 am
No, the cape looks sexy. The whole problem is that it looks like there are some many Lavender Blobs made through dithering. If I can edit the face I can try to give you a good idea how to do that.

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Reply #18 on: December 27, 2006, 11:06:50 am
No, the cape looks sexy. The whole problem is that it looks like there are some many Lavender Blobs made through dithering. If I can edit the face I can try to give you a good idea how to do that.


woah, thanks man for the fast reply, if u could that would be great  :y:  ::)

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #19 on: December 27, 2006, 11:23:18 am
Great progress. I really like the cape. Continue the same shading style on the red bit. The biceps still bug me a bit. I suggest working
with a background color other than white.
Modern artists are told that they must create something totally original-or risk being called "derivative".They've been indoctrinated with the concept that bad=good.The effect is always the same: Meaningless primitivism
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Reply #20 on: December 27, 2006, 11:34:50 am
Change the collar you pimp.

I made you a clean Torso  for you to work with.
The Pinkish skin colour does not blend in well with the pimp.
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Reply #21 on: December 27, 2006, 01:07:40 pm
I did an edit:



Its a bit messy, but take a look at the hands, they might help you. Also look at the head. Although your piece has a more interesting
head, which you should try to keep, i think your head is too small. I think thats why the body was looking big. Lastly i hid the leg, becuase a guy wearing sandals and showing off leg didn't seem like a manly to me. The other stuff that was changed don't
worry about. For example i really like you collar and the jacket.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2006, 01:10:49 pm by sharprm »
Modern artists are told that they must create something totally original-or risk being called "derivative".They've been indoctrinated with the concept that bad=good.The effect is always the same: Meaningless primitivism
http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/Philosophy/phi

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Reply #22 on: December 28, 2006, 12:39:55 am
update:


Thanks Sharprm, i edited the hands. the one on the right isnt so ugly now  :lol:

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #23 on: December 28, 2006, 01:34:39 am
amazing improvement! nect time you get an edit you can just refrence it instead of actually using it and building upon it. i would look up some reference for the chest.

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Reply #24 on: December 28, 2006, 01:51:08 am
oh sorry, well thanks, its still a wip and im open for ideas. i am planning on building the chest up a bit more and working on the abs.. maybe getting rid of the hat/crown thing, getting rid of the rip in the skirt, and maybe a bit more work on the face. Also adding the whip again and maybe something in the other hand  ???

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Reply #25 on: December 28, 2006, 02:11:16 am
I did an edit:



Its a bit messy, but take a look at the hands, they might help you. Also look at the head. Although your piece has a more interesting
head, which you should try to keep, i think your head is too small. I think thats why the body was looking big. Lastly i hid the leg, becuase a guy wearing sandals and showing off leg didn't seem like a manly to me. The other stuff that was changed don't
worry about. For example i really like you collar and the jacket.

 :o Mr.T plays runescape? ;D, anyways, that cape is smexy.
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Reply #26 on: December 28, 2006, 10:56:40 am


Hmmm... added some hair. what do ya guys think?

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Re: [Wip] Rs related.. Help needed!

Reply #27 on: December 30, 2006, 04:39:16 pm
You mind If i make an edit?

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Reply #28 on: December 30, 2006, 11:15:58 pm
go for it VictorR  ;D

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Reply #29 on: December 31, 2006, 01:56:15 pm
could anyone give me a hand or some pointers on how to do the ground? any techniques? that would be a massive help thanks. and thank you for all the cc and help so far.

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Reply #30 on: January 01, 2007, 03:24:48 am
dude.. here I made an rude edit on the chest :P


Feel free to use if want.
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Reply #31 on: January 01, 2007, 04:26:52 am
wow thanks buddy, that looks hawt...
any idea on how i could do the ground? im stuck  :-X

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Reply #32 on: January 03, 2007, 01:24:21 am
umm.. something like this?? use as i said before, if u want  :D

Used your colors from pallete..
God forgive him for his sins I know its was his last minute, You spread his wings so he can only fly.. He will allways be a legend in our hearts and legends never die..

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