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I need help with ze faces guys

on: September 23, 2017, 01:39:57 am

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Re: I need help with ze faces guys

Reply #1 on: September 23, 2017, 01:41:16 am
What kind of style are you going for? Are the faces meant to be realistic?

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Re: I need help with ze faces guys

Reply #2 on: September 23, 2017, 01:44:16 am
no more than this, they need to be twins, they need to be fairly expressionless like now - especially eyes im not happy with

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Re: I need help with ze faces guys

Reply #3 on: September 23, 2017, 02:11:06 am
Did you scale down a larger image as a basis for these? The eyes and eyebrows look blurry.

I'm not really sure what sort of feedback you're looking for, so here's my attempt at general improvements on the left character's face while keeping your style:

Gave her a chin, and moved the ear down as it was too high. I also changed the shape of the back of the jaw, looked like it has a weird bump on it before. Aside from these changes, I did not adjust the anatomy, as I don't know what was intentionally stylised and what wasn't.
Made the eyelashes and eyebrows darker, as before they didn't read well. When you have only a few pixels to work with, you need to focus on clarity over realism, even if it means eyelashes that look darker and thicker than they "should".
Got rid of the middle skin shadow colour as it wasn't doing anything useful. Even darkened as the shadows are now, I still think they're too light. I recommend using darker shadows all around, unless you're aiming for a washed-out look.


Both of them have very large heads. Since the bodies and heads are otherwise realistically proportioned, that looks weird.
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Re: I need help with ze faces guys

Reply #4 on: September 23, 2017, 10:36:07 pm
I second eishiya's critique all the way.

The only thing slightly useful I could add is that the face of the female looks really really male due to its size. That's because female bones in general are smaller than males -- and despite them being twins, at this level of resolution/distance, you're focusing on something that's not very important in the image in the grand scheme anyway. You can keep their faces similar (eyes/noses), but you have to focus on emphasizing the differences in bone structure (even in the face!) between male/female no matter what.

Your head definitely needs to be smaller on BOTH figures though -- I think you're biased as far as detail level goes, since you're so focused on the idea that they're twins. It doesn't read that way to your viewers though. It really just looks like a male and another male with breasts (if I looked at their faces first.) At least shrink the female face area a little or shrink the jaw.

Lastly, you should consider adding in some saturation at some point in your colors. Even if you're going for a gritty washed-out look, without some hint of "color" mixed with the grays, your image simply appears dull without a hint of color perceivable in one of the shades somewhere in there. The massive use of desaturation will definitely keep the washed-out look, but in this case, you've got to avoid overdoing it by forgetting to add *some* color in there!



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