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Re: [WIP][C&C] Leia like portrait - Amiga 32 col. picture

Reply #10 on: January 29, 2017, 07:51:15 pm
Wow! - nice feedback !
really small update this time - I'm preparing bigger step but as I don't have much time lastly and I want to thank you all for you effort :) just showing what I have

I read carefully all your posts - and if not always I can use your advice - its always valuable for me to see other person point  - really
Especially thanks for edits - one fast edit worth of  ...let say 35 wise words ;)

Ok -  one of firsts backups - to show where I started ;)


And actual progress:
- small anatomy changes - overall shape refinement
- rendering tests started, just to try how it could look
- one eye a bit refined - second have to wait
- white clothes test

(It still below 32 colors limit)
And I made also projects for background and some research

- next time I will upload whole progress (maybe anim),
- answer to your posts more directly :)

thanks a lot for you feedback!
and to next post :)

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Re: [WIP][C&C] Leia like portrait - Amiga 32 col. picture

Reply #11 on: January 30, 2017, 09:46:28 am

Whoof, lotta math homework. This is what I meant by relaxing the eyelids a little though, pardon the lazy edit I'm not terribly good at this style of dithering/shading(?) and prioritized the edit over learning the concept!

(I am interested in learning it though, if you've got a guide! Never thought of using blues for skintone shading!)
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http://pixelation.org/index.php?topic=19838.0 also go suggest on my quest, cmon
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Re: [WIP][C&C] Leia like portrait - Amiga 32 col. picture

Reply #12 on: January 31, 2017, 02:00:52 am
Fixing stuff in order to get it out of the uncanny valley:

-removed "dead body" skincolor
-removed amphibic feeling slimey texture
-fixed the proportions of every feature of the face, all of them were too big
-fixed the positioning of the eyes
-exchanged the male eyebrows with female ones
-edited the right cheekline
-fixed the shape of the lips
-fixed overall values
-fixed the crown of the head / origin of the hair that it doesn't look bald up there
-fixed some things regarding lighting



uncanny valley problems:
all of your parts are too big and too round.
You emphasize texture over light, where no texture should be visible.
Your colors don't model a believable living human face, your colors remind me of the makeup of monsers or "dead skin" gradients, not helpful to portray a beautiful female.
You get bogged down in working on details, while your basics aren't strong enough fleshed out in the sketch to actually paint it in a realistic style.

Focus on proportions and structure, it is definitely missing in this basic sketch you posted. You  currentlycarry all those issues throughout the whole piece and even my edit is twisted in spots, just because i fixed thing by thing,instead of starting from scratch, whcih might have been the better idea.

Ok -  one of firsts backups - to show where I started ;)




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Re: [WIP][C&C] Leia like portrait - Amiga 32 col. picture

Reply #13 on: January 31, 2017, 12:11:50 pm
Thanks for nice edit and your feedback - appreciated!
I will answer and update later (deadline in work) :)

You almost convinced me to follow your suggestion "instead of starting from scratch, whcih might have been the better idea"

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Re: [WIP][C&C] Leia like portrait - Amiga 32 col. picture

Reply #14 on: February 14, 2017, 04:45:08 pm
No time for full description and changes
or to answer your feedback properly
just wanted to show update



maybe I will work on background or even repaint some parts - because it was all done in big hurry and I couldn't finish this as I wanted.

any opinion will be valuable for me
thx.

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Re: [WIP][C&C] Leia like portrait - Amiga 32 col. picture

Reply #15 on: February 15, 2017, 07:50:29 am
I think as was pointed out, she is still in uncanny valley. It's a shame because you have put so much time and energy into rendering the face. But I do think the face form needs correcting. One tip which helped me a lot when I was learning traditional art was to think of the lips as just part of the face - mould and shape them as if they are clay with the cheeks - then finally just add a slight bit of colour

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Re: [WIP][C&C] Leia like portrait - Amiga 32 col. picture

Reply #16 on: February 15, 2017, 02:54:39 pm
Looks great so far but I feel that the perspective should bring her left eye closer to her nose and like rocifier said her lips don't really look like they are part of her face/they need to flow better with the musculature of the face.