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Re: [C+C] Runensucher's Topic to get better

Reply #10 on: November 15, 2016, 10:17:07 am
Thanks for the advises (and the cheering).
Here is the next step. But what ever I do, the image doesn't "pop out". Is this caused by missing logic?  ???



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Reply #11 on: November 15, 2016, 11:32:38 pm
let's draw a tree

a tree is not simply a drawing, it is a lifeform, i assume you wanted to draw a oak tree, aka the tree everybody draws
so, to draw an oak, you gotta know how an oak is, from the bottom up
first, the roots
from the images i've seen, the key word was "crossing", the roots crossed and fused with each other, without changing the direction of their growth

next, the trunk
the trunk seems to go up with no bends, with the branches splitting in pairs from the trunk

next, the fun part, leaves, the leaves come from the tips from the branches, and their distribution seem very uniform

you might have noticed i haven't changed your colors, so im gonna say how they are
seems the trunk are very very desaturated and dark browns, while the leaves have from dark green to a bright almost yellow color
so, here, have a sloppy coloring

hope you learn something fromt his, i know i did  :)

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Reply #12 on: November 16, 2016, 02:52:59 pm
let's draw a tree
a tree is not simply a drawing, it is a lifeform, i assume you wanted to draw a oak tree, aka the tree everybody draws
so, to draw an oak, you gotta know how an oak is, from the bottom up

you might have noticed i haven't changed your colors, so im gonna say how they are
seems the trunk are very very desaturated and dark browns, while the leaves have from dark green to a bright almost yellow color

hope you learn something fromt his, i know i did  :)

Oh, wow. This was so helpfull.
First of all: I interpreted your post as "let's start again" und you actually don't know how much I needed this. Thank you.

I did not intend to draw any real tree, so it was a dead end from the beginning. To pixel the trunk first was the best idea and I think this is important, especially for fantasy trees.

I'm not sure if I understood everything you said about my colours. What exactly wasn't right with them? Was it just a comparison to the real colours? I appreciate your positive way to give advice, though.

So this is my result. I think I'm not terrified any more. :)
Any thoughts about a good clean up? Of course I will work on the trunk. And some of the lighting needs a rounder shape.



Thank you again sonicspin. This was awesome.

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Re: [C+C] Runensucher's Topic to get better

Reply #13 on: November 16, 2016, 03:53:05 pm
I'd say "feather" the edges a bit more to create the impression of leaves!
Like so:


By adding that bit of noise to the picture you can create all kinds of textures, play around with the effect in some other things and see how you can work it!
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Reply #14 on: November 17, 2016, 05:23:20 pm
I've been doing as requested. What do you think?
I lowered the contrast because the highlights of the leaves were very disturbing.

This was a lot of fun.

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Re: [C+C] Runensucher's Topic to get better

Reply #15 on: November 17, 2016, 08:11:30 pm
Looks good! Excellent work!
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Re: [C+C] Runensucher's topic for getting better

Reply #16 on: November 19, 2016, 02:13:31 pm
I'm trying to make an avatar for my bf he wanted. It is a character from WOW. There are so much details within the reference, but I think for me it is a good practice. I often think to complicated.



I'm not sure what to do next. We will see.
What are your thoughts? Are there any mistakes with anatomy?

And what parts I better add to a seperate layer?
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Reply #17 on: November 19, 2016, 02:18:00 pm
Ideally, every part of the outfit should be a seperate layer.
Start with the face and shoulders, then layer the cloth bits on top of that, then the armor atop that. You might even need to layer out the various parts of the armor, but start with the head and work your way out.
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Reply #18 on: November 19, 2016, 09:07:57 pm
Ideally, every part of the outfit should be a seperate layer.
Start with the face and shoulders, then layer the cloth bits on top of that, then the armor atop that. You might even need to layer out the various parts of the armor, but start with the head and work your way out.

Thank you. This process is as logic as it is helpful. See how far I've come.


The colours are just placeholders.
I think I will need five hues:
- something for gold and the eyes
- a brown for the hat, the collar and the shoulder armor
- a colour for the skin
- some purple for the wrap and the thing on his back
- some grey for the beard, the shirt and the band on the hat

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Re: [C+C] Runensucher's topic for getting better

Reply #19 on: November 20, 2016, 02:02:45 am
When in doubt, I use google and find hex codes to plonk in. I'm colorblind though, so I can't say I recommend that unless you want to start over-relying on a crutch you don't necessarily need!
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