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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #20 on: September 27, 2006, 12:53:26 pm
Oh and yeah, my bad, I tried reloading the page and the templates did appear. Pretty strange, 'cuz I had already cleaned temp files and all that, but anyway, yes, they are there indeed.
The answer is, caching is not just on-disk. Firefox, for instance, will continue to cache stuff in memory OK even when it's cache directory is bereft of all sense -- I found this out when I generated a huge hunk of HTML and caused it to totally corrupt the cache dir -- I had 3x 13gb files on a 20gb partition, apparently.. this was due to a 'hole in directory'. Fixed by coying off everything but that dir, reformatting and copying back.

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As for the article re-write, so far so good. I see this will be a HUUGE improvement over the current one. I think it's pretty comprehensive so far, but you could probably mention GraphicsGale too,
As commercial, okay. I want to keep the main part simple. To present the most useful programs in each field (commercial, free, and experimental) for spriting. All of these were clear cut choices.
Other, secondary choices can be mentioned in a link.  I think that a full breakdown should be presented as part of the 'Pixel art' article rather than the spriting article.
If you get to doing that before myself,
http://gilgamesh.hamsterrepublic.com/wiki/ohrrpgce/index.php/Graphics_Utilities will give you some good general info on the value of various paint programs for pixel art.

Possibly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_raster_graphics_editors
should get involved. In any case, that page is conspicously missing info on Pro Motion. I added a mention of Pro Motion in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_raster_graphics_editors

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #21 on: September 27, 2006, 06:35:30 pm
Just a note: Pro Motion is on the comparison of raster graphics editors page in some of the tables; look for "cosmigo Pro Motion".  However, it's not in the "General Information" or "Operating System Support" tables.  Someone maybe should edit it in.  Also, for consistency, you could change the entry in the List of raster graphics editors to be named "cosmigo Pro Motion" and link to the site linked in the other page.

The new article for sprites looks good; I hope it's accepted onto the page with minimal fuss from other parties.
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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #22 on: September 27, 2006, 07:09:50 pm
nah, theres
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixelart
which is quite nicely done.

and this spriting page, I wouldnt be surprised if some pixeltendo members or some guys from that advanced pillow shading sonic community wrote it
i know that somebody from pt made the image of the sprite progress. dont know if he wrote it though.

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #23 on: September 28, 2006, 06:32:09 am
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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #24 on: September 28, 2006, 09:13:26 am
If you aren't in a position to buy Pro Motion, a fine free alternative is the combination of GIMP and GIMP-GAP(GIMP Animation Package). (MARK URL)
For editing static images or getting your feet wet, MTPaint (MARK URL)is a good package.
this part sounds a little too informal for my liking. maybe just take out the personal pronouns (you, your, etc.)?

should we also refer to editing and recolouring until they have a seperate topic just to have all parties satisfied? otherwise i foresee editing wars with the other 'spriting' culture.
and Categories: Computer graphics/Computer game design?

EDIT: It seems that 'sprite rip' redirects to spriting... we should get that sorted.
and i agree with .TakaM down there VVVV :D
« Last Edit: September 28, 2006, 09:20:57 am by Akira »
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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #25 on: September 28, 2006, 09:17:46 am
this part sounds a little too informal for my liking. maybe just take out the personal pronouns (you, your, etc.)?

should we also refer to editing and recolouring until they have a seperate topic just to have all parties satisfied? otherwise i foresee editing wars with the other 'spriting' culture.
and Categories: Computer graphics/Computer game design?
sprite edits should just get a brief mention or a whole seperate..um.. wiki-page
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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #26 on: September 28, 2006, 10:13:36 am
TakaM: Am working on that, too --
Looks like it only needs minor editing. I expect to be ready to add the 'Sprite editing' page to Wikipedia in the next few days.

Akira: re informality: Thanks. It is done (locally, still)
The redirect will have to be addressed after the new content for 'spriting' replaces the old.

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #27 on: September 28, 2006, 12:13:47 pm
I don't think 'sprite editing' is worthy enough to merit a page of it's own. I think it should be added as a small section to the bottom of the main article and written in a righfully and mortifyingly prejudiced manner, eg: "... Often, naive children like to think that crudely editing a sprite is enough to warrant some sort of value, and as such, a whole community of dumbed-down 'sprite editing' has emerged on the internet... etc. etc."
Damn, I just remembered Wikipedia's non POV policy. Well, surely one can put all that across in a sufficiently surreptitious way.

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #28 on: September 29, 2006, 06:50:20 am
That page needs to be put up for deletion. It is in violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Spriting is not technically a legal activity, and thus the images of the editted mega mans (you can't post copyrighted material without the copyright holder's permission - much less unofficial edits of it) as well as the links to sprite resources which distribute copyrighted material without permission are distinctly in violation.  Some of the content of the article - specifically the stuff that talks about pixel art and custom spriting - isn't promoting copyright violations, but then, there's already a page on pixel art, making most of that material redundant.

Go ahead and read through the copyright policies. It's pretty clear on this kind of stuff. Plus, the article is absolutely terrible and written by like a third grader with a reading disorder. Nobody will miss it. Concentrate your time on the pixel art article instead.

I'd do it, but getting anything done on Wikipedia is like pulling teeth, and I tend to return the favor. God, I hate Wikipedia.

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #29 on: September 29, 2006, 07:44:46 am
Thank you for your input Sqorgar however we are doing a rewrite to make it relevant which should also remove the copyrighted material  :)
thanks Dogmeat!