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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #10 on: September 26, 2006, 08:03:38 pm
Power to the pixelartists!  :yay:
I'm fully behind getting some proper information onto the page. Possibly also pointing out how pitiful rippers are (although that's possibly not something to be put on the wiki)... heheh. There'll have to be some images put on aswel, to show the uneducated what we're on about.  :y:

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #11 on: September 26, 2006, 08:21:31 pm
I hope someone picks this up.

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #12 on: September 26, 2006, 10:59:57 pm
If you look now, two templates have been added at the top : needs re-write, needs expert attention. Check out the discussion page, apparently it's being discussed there if you want to chip in.

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #13 on: September 27, 2006, 01:02:24 am
If you look now, two templates have been added at the top : needs re-write, needs expert attention. Check out the discussion page, apparently it's being discussed there if you want to chip in.
Those templates weren't showing up. I think I fixed them; anyway they're showing up now.

I'm working on this (on a local copy, since it needs so much rewriting).
Also see my comments in the talk section -- particularly I'd be interested in feedback on what free programs to recommend for sprite creation (currently, GIMP + GIMP-GAP)

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #14 on: September 27, 2006, 02:47:23 am
Most definitely it needs us :(

God, that was awful, I can't believe I sat through it all. I'm open for contributions if anyone wants help with the rewrite.

However, it seems that the templates/tags aren't showing up, I wonder if they where removed by someone who felt they were out of place? I checked the page's history tab but it doesn't say anything about that.

At any rate, I'll probably come back later with some suggestions, I may not be the best spriter but I certainly can't do worse that that piece of crap :|

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #15 on: September 27, 2006, 05:35:41 am
Ai, if you're on this, I can certainly rest easy.

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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #16 on: September 27, 2006, 07:57:18 am
Most definitely it needs us :(

God, that was awful, I can't believe I sat through it all. I'm open for contributions if anyone wants help with the rewrite.

However, it seems that the templates/tags aren't showing up, I wonder if they where removed by someone who felt they were out of place? I checked the page's history tab but it doesn't say anything about that.

What, still? I thought I fixed it.
Still looks OK to me. Try reloading.

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At any rate, I'll probably come back later with some suggestions, I may not be the best spriter but I certainly can't do worse that that piece of crap :|
Okay. Here's some content, presently too many words.
Some of it belongs in the more general 'sprite' article.
Please correct it as much as you can -- I think it should only be applied once we have a quite solid document, to minimize the chance of editwar.

(cut here)

'''Spriting''' is used to refer to the creation of a [[sprites (computer graphics)|sprite]] (EDITING/RIPPING FOOTNOTE MARK HERE?). Sprites are usually also [[pixel art|pixel art]], though this isn't always the case.
Spriting requires the creation of one or many associated [[frames (computer graphics)|frames]]. As 'sprite' refers to the concept of a movable graphic object, a collection of frames (for example, the frames that make up a walk cycle) is still referred to as a sprite. The individual frames are also considered sprites, but this usage of the word is less common.

The most common tool professionals use is Pro Motion (MARK URL), which is designed for creating game art and has many features that are very useful for game art, including sprites.
If you aren't in a position to buy Pro Motion, a fine free alternative is the combination of GIMP and GIMP-GAP(GIMP Animation Package). (MARK URL)
For editing static images or getting your feet wet, MTPaint (MARK URL)is a good package.

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List of URLs to include as marked:

http://www.gimp.org
http://www.cosmigo.com/promotion/
http://mtpaint.sourceforge.net/


Some things that may also need addressing:
* Animation
* Colorkey transparency
* A full progress animation, as seen occasionally around here.
  At least 8 frames, with a large enough delay so you can see each frame (so, 1.5 - 2.0 seconds between frames)
  Is this okay for wikipedia?
* As there a more approachable package than MTPaint that's anywhere near as capable?  If so, it should be there instead
* ditto for the GIMP+GIMP-GAP combo.
* anything else? (Keops?)
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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #17 on: September 27, 2006, 10:26:54 am
is this only to be about spriting, or pixel art as well? (if the latter, then id would touch upon common/popular restrictions, history, sprites as art, and maybe links to basic techniques?)
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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #18 on: September 27, 2006, 10:30:21 am
is this only to be about spriting, or pixel art as well? (if the latter, then id would touch upon common/popular restrictions, history, sprites as art, and maybe links to basic techniques?)
nah, theres
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixelart
which is quite nicely done.

and this spriting page, I wouldnt be surprised if some pixeltendo members or some guys from that advanced pillow shading sonic community wrote it
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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting <- this needs us

Reply #19 on: September 27, 2006, 11:58:40 am
Oh and yeah, my bad, I tried reloading the page and the templates did appear. Pretty strange, 'cuz I had already cleaned temp files and all that, but anyway, yes, they are there indeed.

As for the article re-write, so far so good. I see this will be a HUUGE improvement over the current one. I think it's pretty comprehensive so far, but you could probably mention GraphicsGale too, as that application is quite popular and also features competent animation tools. And last but not least I think that even if it's common consensus that Photoshop + ImageReady is overkill you shouldn't forget to mention them, since many people use that to make their pixel art (including me heh). I'll be sure to keep and eye on the progress there, so any other additions I can come up with will be posted in this thread over here.

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