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[WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character + Other Characters

on: March 26, 2016, 11:13:19 am
Hello! I need some help and feedback on this character. Anything will help!
I plan to animate it later, but I'd love to get the design and colors out of the way first if possible.
I'm a little stumped as to how I should proceed next, the main thing that's bugging me is the sash on the tummy area and the skirt-like garment over the legs and the feet themselves. I cannot figure them out :/
Also I believe the shading is horrendous so some pointers would be great.

Left : The blob version for animating,
Right : The working version.


Inspiration : https://twitter.com/Conzeit/status/702616298379988992


Thank you! And please be as harsh as you need to.
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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character.

Reply #1 on: March 26, 2016, 01:40:01 pm
Mini-update.
Decided to change the pose a bit.

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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character.

Reply #2 on: March 26, 2016, 04:38:29 pm
Amazing :D
I'm having a few problems reading the thing around his belly (making the right part smaller may help I think)
also the green on his sword handle doesn't look like it is fitting this but this may just be me.
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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character.

Reply #3 on: March 26, 2016, 04:53:58 pm
@Pusty Thanks man :) 
Ah yeah, as I mentioned the belly part is giving me a lot of trouble. I cannot figure it out :/ Still trying, though.
Oh, the green on the sheath is temporary. I decided to make the sheath completely dark now.
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Not sure if this works, but I'll leave it here.

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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character.

Reply #4 on: March 26, 2016, 06:14:52 pm


Just made a small change to the sash because it was too wide and bulky near his left arm.
Also, the shading on his left arm should be bigger as it is the side where the light source is(like the left side of the skirt part).
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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character.

Reply #5 on: March 26, 2016, 11:51:18 pm
Hi Tsej,

I tried to edit some stuffs coz your samourai is neat :=)

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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character.

Reply #6 on: March 27, 2016, 12:02:14 am
I was just going to say "I love the pose" but then in the next post you changed it. I thought the composition was best in the first post. Lol

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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character.

Reply #7 on: March 27, 2016, 12:38:52 am
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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character.

Reply #8 on: March 27, 2016, 02:55:16 am
Hey ho. Another mini-update.
Thanks for the replies guys, I will take a few things from the edits and probably add them in later

For now, though..
Thanks sanicspin.


Why do I still include the blob version? No idea.


And with some help from pik, I have made this. 

I'm sure it can be improved a ton still. I'm going to try to animate.

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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character.

Reply #9 on: March 27, 2016, 04:05:33 am
Turned out awesome tsej, but I still think the sash is to wide  :hehe:
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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character.

Reply #10 on: March 27, 2016, 09:04:26 am
much better with the contrast :)
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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character + Other Characters

Reply #11 on: March 28, 2016, 08:18:27 pm
Thanks metachaos :)

After fiddling around with some animations, I sketched up another enemy concept.


It just looks..off. Unfortunately I have to go to bed. I'd love any and all feedback and I'll hopefully fix it when I wake up.

It's supposed to be a shaman-like character.
(Still trying to animate the samurai :ouch:)
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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character + Other Characters

Reply #12 on: March 29, 2016, 03:02:23 am
Hmm I think it's more the lighting / anatomy. Here's a quick paintover using the same colours but trying to mimick the same light source as the left character. As you can see with more accurately proportioned limbs he starts to be crouched instead of hunched, so the pose needs fixing now.

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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character + Other Characters

Reply #13 on: March 29, 2016, 04:26:02 pm
Yo.
Thanks rocifier for always helping out.
I like what you did with the shading and the legs. It definitely gave me ideas and helped me out. As for the light source, let's just say the character is flipped right now and it's coming from the front and up from the direction they're looking at.


I worked on the shaman earlier today. Wasn't happy with it so I redid it with a better pose and overall what I believe would fit better.

The colors are temporary, I need to figure out the anatomy still.

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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character + Other Characters

Reply #14 on: March 30, 2016, 02:34:20 pm
Update. Any feedback is appreciated.

Thanks atnas for helping with the samurai dude
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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character + Other Characters

Reply #15 on: March 30, 2016, 02:45:37 pm
I feel like the previous shaman design had more appeal to it, with the mask and funky staff. This just looks like some random dude with a spear.
Unless it's a seperate character and I'm misinterpreting entirely, haha
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Reply #16 on: March 30, 2016, 02:57:14 pm
I agree, the first one had appeal, but I think this one's better when you look at the big picture IMO. I can design more goofy characters later.
It is the same character. I redid it because I was unhappy.
I can work on the appeal, I guess.
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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character + Other Characters

Reply #17 on: March 30, 2016, 04:27:38 pm
Aye. Shouldn't need many changes, I do question the white hair with the lighter skin tone but
I also feel like you're dodging the controversy bullet by shifting the tribesman away from the dark skin too.

It might help to get some sort of wooden armor or some trinkets on him, right now he looks more warrior than shaman with the emphasis on his conan-esque pectorals
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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character + Other Characters

Reply #18 on: March 30, 2016, 05:51:03 pm
Alrighty. I'll get to work. Thanks.
Also @MysteryMeat, read this http://pixelation.org/index.php?topic=19579

Also, it isn't white hair, it's wearing an animal skin. I guess I should work on the readability if it is not that obvious?

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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character + Other Characters

Reply #19 on: March 30, 2016, 06:01:31 pm
Good posts in that link, I'm feeling like I'm going to enjoy this community a lot more.
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Reply #20 on: March 30, 2016, 06:05:41 pm
Oh yeah, definitely. It's one of the best communities I've been a part of. It has helped me improve MASSIVELY and also made a lot of great friends so far. And I'm sure it will keep helping me and I will also help others.


I like your ideas, though. I'm gonna try to mask the pecs a bit and give him a few more weird stuff. Also I'll try to make the pelt more obvious.(Not sure how I'll go about it though)
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Reply #21 on: March 30, 2016, 06:08:32 pm
RE: the pelt, it might help to exagerate it a bit. Have the wolf's snout jut further out and maybe cast a shadow over his face. Could also extend it to drag on the floor a little bit like a cloak.
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Re: [WIP] Samurai-Inspired Character + Other Characters

Reply #22 on: March 30, 2016, 07:40:45 pm
I think you should just improve the lighting on the original one, he looks way more dependent on magic. The newer one might as well throw the spear away and hulk hogan some enemy ass.