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Re: Help with Non Metallic Shading

Reply #50 on: October 17, 2015, 01:49:33 am
heh, this is funny. I dont know if you're either channeling him somehow because you like the same stuff as he does or you have been directly influenced by SplatPixel, but it's defintively reminiscent.
http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/12647.htm
He's an old user of pixelation, he always did these light skinned doll-like characters. I'm not blaming you of copying or anything like that though, this monster is clearly your own, it's far fatter than anything I remember him doing and I dont think crotch faces or shoulder stingers were something he was into either :p it's just kinda nostalgic to me to see this light skinned doll character, thought you'd dig hearing about splat's work regardless of wether you knew him or not, since it has some similar tastes.

I made a quick search for sickly chicken and by reverse image searching the sickest chicken I saw google suggested "raw whole chicken" as keyword, which yielded this among other things

one big, easy to replicate feature I see is very very pale beige skin, with almost no contents of orange (makes it look alive and healthy), and patches of purple or reddish pink discoloration. Anything more would be simply adding sagging skin, subsurface traslucency like Gil said and other sickly looking features, but that sounds far more complicated, so if I were you I'd go for the easy thing first and then judge how much more I would get from more work intensive detail
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Re: Help with Non Metallic Shading

Reply #51 on: October 17, 2015, 05:06:09 am
If you're going for the uncooked chicken look, some sort of subsurface scattering might be fun? It'll allow you to keep the sickly chicken look and still get some interesting light variation in there.

A quick google of this makes it seem like adding light underneath the skin as if it were somewhat translucent, right?  I'll look into it.

heh, this is funny. I dont know if you're either channeling him somehow because you like the same stuff as he does or you have been directly influenced by SplatPixel, but it's defintively reminiscent.
http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/12647.htm
He's an old user of pixelation, he always did these light skinned doll-like characters. I'm not blaming you of copying or anything like that though, this monster is clearly your own, it's far fatter than anything I remember him doing and I dont think crotch faces or shoulder stingers were something he was into either :p it's just kinda nostalgic to me to see this light skinned doll character, thought you'd dig hearing about splat's work regardless of wether you knew him or not, since it has some similar tastes.

I made a quick search for sickly chicken and by reverse image searching the sickest chicken I saw google suggested "raw whole chicken" as keyword, which yielded this among other things

one big, easy to replicate feature I see is very very pale beige skin, with almost no contents of orange (makes it look alive and healthy), and patches of purple or reddish pink discoloration. Anything more would be simply adding sagging skin, subsurface traslucency like Gil said and other sickly looking features, but that sounds far more complicated, so if I were you I'd go for the easy thing first and then judge how much more I would get from more work intensive detail

I've appreciated that at least once while exploring the top section of pixeljoint, but yeah, it's just similar ideas, though.  Still cool to see.

I'll try adding discoloration and maybe some more stuff.  The chicken skin was actually more of an afterthought, so I didn't check any references beforehand.

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Re: Help with Non Metallic Shading

Reply #52 on: October 17, 2015, 09:21:08 pm
also up the contrast you're still picking colors that are hard to tell apart

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Re: Help with Non Metallic Shading

Reply #53 on: October 19, 2015, 09:44:03 pm

I couldn't figure out how to make the subsurface scattering work, but I upped the contrast a bit, made it paler and added some purple splorches.

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Re: Help with Non Metallic Shading

Reply #54 on: October 21, 2015, 08:49:09 pm
hmm, maybe try with a more purple color?

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Re: Help with Non Metallic Shading

Reply #55 on: October 21, 2015, 08:57:45 pm
I would suggest trying to get the goose bumped flesh of the chicken incorporated.  I think it would look super cool if you did it in a super wide dithering type of way.  I like the design of the character though.  They look super cool. :crazy:
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Re: Help with Non Metallic Shading

Reply #56 on: October 21, 2015, 10:32:24 pm


I've made some (mostly) colour edits (ending up with the rightmost) with the help of the reference that was posted earlier. I don't really know anything about subsurface scattering either, but at least the creature looks less tasty now.
I can't really tell if it still looks like chicken/skin though.
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Re: Help with Non Metallic Shading

Reply #57 on: October 21, 2015, 11:17:50 pm


Bluh, I was right in the middle of posting the new version when I saw yours, Bat.

I do like the more emphasis on purple, but I feel like it's a bit more white/pale than blue.  I got rid of any sort of normal human skin color and made it all purple or whitish.
In addition, I littered a few dots around that hopefully emulate goosebumps.  I couldn't get any decent dithering to work on this size, but that's probably because I've never really used it before.