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Re: Looking for feedback on the SS13 piece I did. | Mysterious Crow

Reply #10 on: December 28, 2013, 08:02:14 pm
By the specificness and choice of words, it sounds like a critique with more than one supposed recipient. Curiously, it's the kind I am interested in, though it reads damning, and maybe at that a bit too sweepingly general on the issue. The question here is scale of employment and goals of construction. Certainly it is an option that can have some good case of usage in the right measure. For example, organic forms, often related to round-ish shapes can profit of 45° in *micro*-optimizations of the "linework"'s "breaking points" for just a tad cleaner impression without actually defining shape in total; and many of mankind's artificial products, some of the most useful, ingenious and fascinating among them, even very much rely on diagonal 90° macro shape. So as an option it can make a strong case when supported properly for the right occasion. And that is not even to mention the problem beyond pixel art, that in another medium sufficiently approximating such shape, like a classic roof-top, or the edge of a blade, or the wings of a plane, via proper 90°s can be too costly in computation. Just some thoughts, my apologies for hijacking your thread, Mr.Beast. Cool crow.
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Re: Looking for feedback on the SS13 piece I did. | Mysterious Crow

Reply #11 on: December 28, 2013, 08:45:09 pm

I would appreciate some feedback on the head, made lots of changes but were never really satisfied by it. :ouch:
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Re: Looking for feedback on the SS13 piece I did. | Mysterious Crow

Reply #12 on: December 29, 2013, 03:55:11 am
I like the original because it is more true to a real life crow. The head of crows (and many other birds) are slicked back and smooth. While there is texture, it wouldn't be in big clumps like that, maybe like more fine, short hairs. Here are two references I searched up where you can zoom in:
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/AP%20HART93%2020Mar10%20cutout_kjm5340.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Carrion_crow_20090612.jpg
Also found this that matches your pose:

Besides the plumage, I really think you have gotten a pretty accurate shape, but the plumage really bugs me. Made a little edit to the head to show what I feel would look better. I just painted over it, so take a lot of it with a grain of salt.

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Re: Looking for feedback on the SS13 piece I did. | Mysterious Crow

Reply #13 on: December 29, 2013, 01:23:51 pm
Yeah, the plumage was completly unplausible because the size of the single feathers were completely wrong. I am not going for a completely smooth look though.



I used this reference since it pretty clearly shows how long the single feathers are at different points: http://www.deviantart.com/art/crow-113203689
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Re: Looking for feedback on the SS13 piece I did. | Mysterious Crow

Reply #14 on: January 02, 2014, 01:57:01 am
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Re: Looking for feedback on the SS13 piece I did. | Mysterious Crow

Reply #15 on: January 02, 2014, 08:44:32 am
Can't say I like the eye in the latest one. Looks like it's blind :-\
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Re: Looking for feedback on the SS13 piece I did. | Mysterious Crow

Reply #16 on: January 02, 2014, 11:10:25 am


- Crows have dull hightlights, it takes quite a bit of light to make them shiny. They are very dark.
- Highlights tend to be cold and shadows tend to be warm, that's why they look otherworldly.
- Pay attention to how the head and the beak forms one line, how the neck curves into the body etc.
Try to identify the landmarks that identify a crow. For instance, feathers around the head tend to point towards the eye.
Everything tends to radiate out from there for most birds. Feather structures never make sharp turns.
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Does scaling an image blur it?
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