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Re: Newbie Trying To Pixel An Island

Reply #60 on: October 17, 2013, 11:28:39 pm
Made another edit (tried to fix errors in center structure):

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Re: Newbie Trying To Pixel An Island

Reply #61 on: October 19, 2013, 07:34:03 pm
In the future, it would help a lot to stop guessing perspective and actually sketch a guide!

Top is a plan view (from above, no perspective) with the centres noted, you could do this in a couple of minutes pencil & paper and simply look at it from different angles. Bottom I've skewed the plan into perspective and used the centre points to extrude form crudely (technically those ellipses would thin out a little going up).

That should be enough to make a decent sketch freehand; of course it's hard to use the guidelines effectively if you haven't practised this stuff: it's important!

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Re: Newbie Trying To Pixel An Island

Reply #62 on: October 19, 2013, 10:02:07 pm
@Facet
Thank you! That really helps! I tried fixing up the existing image as best I could...
V1:
V2:

Would any of these work?

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Re: Newbie Trying To Pixel An Island

Reply #63 on: October 19, 2013, 11:42:57 pm
I hope so, but really it's up to you to read up and apply that stuff to everything else. All the little things; mushrooms, building etc. should conform to the same viewpoint as the landmass (atm they're pretty much in profile). Can you sketch guidelines for them?

Try keeping guides on a layer on top of the final with opacity or multiply blending so you stay consistent.

To match my guides you'd have to broaden the central ellipse a bit (as though looking from further above):

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Re: Newbie Trying To Pixel An Island

Reply #64 on: October 20, 2013, 03:07:54 am
@Facet
would these guidelines work? :3

Or maybe this one:

I'm still a bit unsure, especially on the buildings... wouldn't they pretty much look like 2D squares?
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Re: Newbie Trying To Pixel An Island

Reply #65 on: October 20, 2013, 10:34:32 am
@Facet These are not pentagram islands, some variation in shape and position should exist.

@Wallie988 You should start everything from scratch. The problem begun when you created first island separately from the others, and you don't understand the perspective, so you can't create others to match the first one. Now you are trying to force everything to fit, without changing the first island.
You should start again, but this time you should draw all islands at the same time and find good perspective and position of leaf islands. You can maybe rotate them so the central island don't cover the top one. Think about purpose of this drawing and what perspective will fit the best.
I gave you some perspective tutorials, you should use them, and found more if it's necessary. Think, try, if you fail, try again.

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Re: (WIP) Newbie Trying To Pixel An Island

Reply #66 on: October 20, 2013, 04:07:58 pm
Harvey:
Not my intention, however regularity/repetition of form enhances perception and understanding of perspective.

would these guidelines work? :3
Of course not, you've just doodled something that looks superficially similar to the guide I already made with no attempt to work anything out!
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Re: (WIP) Newbie Trying To Pixel An Island

Reply #67 on: October 20, 2013, 06:16:52 pm
@Facet
Well, I'm still debating with myself whether to do what you did or if this works. I'm just stuck on the two side petals... I can't seem to figure out how they're supposed to look, but I made some changes which you might not notice:

Yeah, the guide's kind of shifted to the right.
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Re: (WIP) Newbie Trying To Pixel An Island

Reply #68 on: October 20, 2013, 08:52:15 pm
How did you work out the placement of those lines? How do they relate to the objects (mushrooms, buildings) you want to place?

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Re: (WIP) Newbie Trying To Pixel An Island

Reply #69 on: October 20, 2013, 09:40:52 pm
@Facet
Well, really I just tried looking at photos of island from a similar perspective to see if everything made sense... but now that I think about it, I might have made some mistakes: the bottom right petal might need to be turned a bit more to the side. It's supposed to look as though you were on a plane or something flying overhead/towards.
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