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[WIP]Nivek's Unfinished Sketches

on: July 10, 2012, 02:41:02 am
Here is a piece that I started on a few days back. I used a whole lot of references off google images(search for Monica Dark Chronicle). The piece isn't quite finished yet, so I would like some help with that. Please avoid editing the whole image because I also want to learn and I might steal your edited image :hehe:.

Here is the image:


Too lazy to do the hands.

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Re: [WIP]Nivek's Unfinished Sketches

Reply #1 on: July 10, 2012, 07:27:50 am

Anime or not, check face proportions. Reuse colors. Increase contrast.

A shade of yellow can be used as a highlight shade for a brown. Look into Anti-Aliasing. It'll make the transitions less harsh.

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Re: [WIP]Nivek's Unfinished Sketches

Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 03:20:37 am
Thanks for the edit StaticSails. I totally forgot about the highlights. :blind:

Here is an update:

I AA'd the outline of Monica and did a few tweaks. I'm not totally satisfied with the image though. My main concerns are the hair, neck shading, and the mouth at the moment.

Here is something I started on while waiting for a reply:
« Last Edit: July 11, 2012, 03:26:15 am by nivek »

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Re: [WIP]Nivek's Unfinished Sketches

Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 08:21:01 am




Some things to try:
Reduce the amount of lines inside the character and only use dark lines for major overlaps, outer edges, etc.
Add lighting based on surface normal instead of edges. Think in 3D.
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Re: [WIP]Nivek's Unfinished Sketches

Reply #4 on: July 12, 2012, 07:49:35 am
In addition to PixelPiledriver's excellent advice and edit, the eyes on yours look kinda freaky right now because the white is visible all around the iris. People don't really keep their eyes that wide open normally.

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Re: [WIP]Nivek's Unfinished Sketches

Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 02:34:29 am
Thankyou very much for that awesome edit PixelPileDriver.  :y:

Here is the update:


Didn't think I would do the hands right now but your edit inspired me to do the complete body. I got rid of the dark lines. and tried to add the lighting and shading. I'm not finished though. Maybe a couple more tweaks should do. Your edit is so much better though   :yell:.

@Cupcake I'll keep tweaking the eyes.

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Re: [WIP]Nivek's Unfinished Sketches

Reply #6 on: July 13, 2012, 05:43:04 am
I think you need to fix the proportions alittle, unless she's a cute dwarf.
maybe something like this (very quick and dirty):

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Re: [WIP]Nivek's Unfinished Sketches

Reply #7 on: July 13, 2012, 11:25:37 am
rather rough edit


to illustrate the proportions you had can be fine if you work on it, it's a style choice so I wouldn't recommend changing the proportions that drastically if that's not what you wanted to achieve.

and PixelPiledriver's edit has alot of good principles, you'll notice he kept similar proportions, but notice he enlarged the character to allow more pixels to refine the features, and that's a good piece of advice, it's difficult to capture the right curves and to define features at lower sizes. also I recommend finding and using some reliable reference on the sword holding hand, at the moment the hand is incredibly awkward, and PP has illustrated an effective approach more dynamic and easier to execute because you do not need to worry about fingers, and the resulting angle of the sword is more dynamic, but in some senses it is a bit more difficult to render the dagger at that angle, notice his use of colours to reinforce the tilt/angle

big step up on the shading compared to the first attempt, I think the hair needs a bit off work too, looks like short hair and a ponytail and doesn't quite match, I didn't offer any visual suggestions in my edit but PPs edit again is good reference. the non pony tail hair is mostly bangs and establishing the hair is flowing toward the pony tail

keep persevering :)

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Re: [WIP]Nivek's Unfinished Sketches

Reply #8 on: July 13, 2012, 10:37:51 pm
nivek, can i make a video of me editing your image?

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Re: [WIP]Nivek's Unfinished Sketches

Reply #9 on: July 14, 2012, 07:24:10 am
@Alex - I'd be honoured but only if you share the video.

Here is an update with a few tweaks:


I think you need to fix the proportions alittle, unless she's a cute dwarf.
maybe something like this (very quick and dirty):

I don't think I will stretch the image to make her taller but I will think about this point.

@Grimsane - thanks for the ideas and edit.  I will think about the sword arm and and hair.