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Wild Charizard Appears(WIP)

on: May 21, 2012, 03:09:19 pm
Currently trying to learn making great palettes.



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Re: Wild Charizard Appears(WIP)

Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 10:40:58 am
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Re: Wild Charizard Appears(WIP)

Reply #2 on: May 23, 2012, 12:18:00 am

fixed the neck it was really angled i tried to keep it as close as possible didn't add on the palette added a fire in there as well

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Re: Wild Charizard Appears(WIP)

Reply #3 on: May 23, 2012, 06:34:41 am
I really appreciate your comment, sir. But the problem is I do not want to go for that style. I was trying to go for the style of famous artist ptoing. He uses straight lines and so did I. I mixed his line-art style and my shading style.
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Re: Wild Charizard Appears(WIP)

Reply #4 on: May 23, 2012, 12:20:56 pm
You won't improve if you abuse your interpretation of someone elses stylistical choices as an excuse for errors.
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Re: Wild Charizard Appears(WIP)

Reply #5 on: May 23, 2012, 01:50:31 pm
Sorry but I didn't understand your reply. Also, I wasn't abusing anyone's work.
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Re: Wild Charizard Appears(WIP)

Reply #6 on: May 23, 2012, 02:39:45 pm
You shrugged valid criticism off because "it's not the style I want to go for".
That doesn't do you any favors. You're here to learn after all, aren't you?

The most important thing you should learn right now is not to get too attached to a "style".
Or better yet, forget the notion of "style" altogether.
It's something that manifests from your workflow, not something you actively seek to copy.
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Re: Wild Charizard Appears(WIP)

Reply #7 on: May 23, 2012, 03:06:13 pm
I am flattered, but what you are doing wont get you very far. You should not try to copy styles until you have progressed further and can draw something decently well in a realistic fashion (not talking photoreal or anything, just realistic proportions and so on).

The style I have (tho I do not think I have a singular style) I got through years and years of drawing, experimenting and lucky accidents. If you just ape a style without understanding the principles behind it (and there are certain principles as to how and when I use straight lines, even if those principles might be only relatively loosely formulated in my mind) you will not learn much if anything from copying styles. The worst than can happen is that you will learn to imitate a certain style which is not yours to begin with sufficiently well to think you reached a good goal. This can end up in stagnation.

I would recommend that you try and NOT copy any styles until you did more drawing from life (not at the computer, use pencils and such) Start with basics like simple shapes (balls, apples, vases...) and then go to more complex things like trees, plants, hands, feet, whole humans, animals and so on. The skills you will gain from this will directly translate to skills you will need for pixelart, such as a feeling for proportions, construction of bodies, poses, shading and so on.

Later, when you are sufficiently good at drawing it can be good practise to do copies after other artists, be it as direct as possible or in your style. And if you do this you always have to think why something is like it is. Why did the artist you copy choose the colours, the shapes, the composition, the contrasts he is using. THEN you will learn and things you learn will naturally distill into your own style and workflow over time.
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Re: Wild Charizard Appears(WIP)

Reply #8 on: May 23, 2012, 04:30:09 pm
I am extremely sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, I actually didn't mean to.

As for your style (ptoing) I was just going trying to use it for this particular charizard. I am still learning pixel art and not trying to shrug any criticism off... It's just that I wanted to go for straight lines for this piece particularly and if I had taken the advice from jinza I'd have to lose those lines. But seriously.. I didn't want to hurt anyone.


Thanks to both 9_6 and Ptoing for advice. I'll try to follow them and be a great art.
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Re: Wild Charizard Appears(WIP)

Reply #9 on: May 23, 2012, 04:41:37 pm
The point I was making is that you "used" the style without having sufficient experience to use it well or fully understand why I do what I do. I would never have made the neck like you did for example. It has no flow and looks very awkward. These are fundamental things you need to learn about construction and such, and those you will best learn from drawing from life, not from drawing from other peoples stuff. That's the gist of it.

No hard feelings from my end at all. If you enjoy drawing and are serious about it, keep at it, you will get better :)
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