GR#094 - Another Werewolf (Nudity) - Pixel Artwork

[9_6]

Old:
Still blocking things out

[Chris2balls]

I'm looking forward to seeing more of this!


I suggest you start giving a context to your werewolf, ie a background, a setting. It would contribute a lot to this piece.

[9_6]

[Helm]

oooh, immediate improvement! Great atmosphere. The pixelling kinda rough but my bit of critique at this point is that you should look at some arm photos to see how the upper arm connects to the lower arm more clearly, also the wrist. You have problems where the bits connect, which is best amended by real life study.


this isn't very good either, but it looks more attractive at least

[9_6]

Yeah I don't know what went wrong with the shading there.
Must've been those tufts of fur there that kinda warped the shading in my head or something.

Update:


Not wanting crazy muscles btw. Toned the definition down a bit already (because there's fur on top of all that anyway) because it's not quite male.
I blame the breasts. They don't read as such and I'm not sure how to fix that.
Might be the hunched over pose, an anatomy fail on my part or a shading failure or a combination of all 3.

Also the hand doesn't read quite well either which I'm not sure how to fix but the forearm is supposed to be elongated.
That's a werewolf thing so they can walk on all fours without looking silly I suppose. At least the werewolf walkcycle of diablo 2 suggests that.

[Chris2balls]

It looks better, 9_6!
I have an issue with the contrast, and as Helm pointed out, the shape of the arm.
Here's an edit, with the original to the left:

I think you have to define the shoulder more, as well as adding some thickness to the back of the arm. The hand/paw is lost in the tail, and the tail is lost in the background, amongst other things.
Can't wait for an update!

[Kcilc]

I actually like the new contrast. It makes it say night a whole lot more.

Here's an edit where I tried to address the femininity of your beautiful werewolf. I really liked how you did her breasts in the first picture, and I think you should hale back to that. I also think you could use her muscles to accentuate her physiology instead of diminish it just by building up different muscles. My anatomy got kinda screwy, but I hope that it gives you some ideas!



All in all I think this is wonderful, and I love the concept. 

[9_6]

Ah, I knew I pulled those things up too much.
When in doubt, lower boobs and broaden shoulders.
Thanks!

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[HughSpectrum]

I should've stepped in on this earlier, but I can't help but feel like the arms communicate a much more relaxed message than the forward lean and bent legs do.

NPA EDIT


Of course, you may have been going for a more reserved but still confident stance, but it was easier to edit the arms due to the legs already being grounded in the scene.

I am no expert on posing, to take my advice with a grain of salt.  I'm sure somebody will tell me I'm wrong.

[9_6]

Thanks but I think that if we move those long arms over there, that'll mess up the balance.

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[tehwexxl0rz]

This is looking pretty great, but am I the only one weirded out by the, uh... anatomical detail down there?
She's covered in fur, but it looks like her vag is clean shaven. o.O

The man looks a little off-balance. I think the shape of the arms needs to be cleaned up. Also, the way the coat hangs seems more like a skirt.

[Phlakes]

You might a bit of purple in there to buffer the red and dark blues. The lighting is great, but a bit too jarring.

[9_6]

@tehwexxl0rz: Yes.

I had no idea what I was doing when drawing the fedora guy.
He's still very wip and I'm mostly glad I got something resembling a face done.

@Phlakes: Yeah, everything points towards purple.
The palette is in constant flux though and I may end up with something completely different.

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[StarRaven]

This is looking pretty great, but am I the only one weirded out by the, uh... anatomical detail down there?
She's covered in fur, but it looks like her vag is clean shaven. o.O

That's weird, but the furless boobs aren't? Haha.

I have to admit that it's kind of strange -- the fur on her head and shoulders and elbows implies that she has long fur, but the naked naughty bits and detailed musculature makes it look like she has either really short fur or none at all in places.

The guy looks a little short, like his legs are not long enough. You mostly took care of this but he still looks a little odd. It's a good idea to draw in the whole body before you cover it with clothes so that the proportions are good.

I was pondering that hand. Here's my suggestion:


I liked the look of that red lighting, honestly. Not that the pink isn't neat. Just my two cents. :3


My apologies in advance if this has all been addressed or something. I write forum posts at the speed of a melting glacier evidently.

[Godsent]

Definately go with StarRaven's suggestion on the werewolf's arm. The old pose worked when the werewolf was alone, but I think the new one would work so much better now that the man has been thrown into the piece. Also revert back to the previous shading on the man's coat. Lastly, I'd stick with pink or revert back to blue this blue, though:


Looks like it'll end up a great piece

[9_6]

Sorry guys, broad changes to the arm position, at this point, aren't gonna happen.
For one, I don't think it's necessary and I want the arms to be back there because of flow and balance.
This is more of a hand gesture than an arm position issue.

And last but not least, I'd like to wrap this up at some point.

So:

I have to admit that it's kind of strange -- the fur on her head and shoulders and elbows implies that she has long fur, but the naked naughty bits and detailed musculature makes it look like she has either really short fur or none at all in places.

Yeah the fur does indeed not have the same length at all places.
Less on the front more on the back.

[HughSpectrum]

For one, I don't think it's necessary and I want the arms to be back there because of flow and balance.

I honestly think the arms are communicating a different balance than the rest of the figure and actually breaking the flow.

I actually tried the pose you are going for, and it felt like I was doing this:


I think your piece can get away with not having a change, but it's still something I felt I needed to point out.

[StarRaven]

I don't really think the guy adds anything to the picture. The werewolf looks stellar; he's bringin' her down.

Sorry guys, broad changes to the arm position, at this point, aren't gonna happen.
For one, I don't think it's necessary and I want the arms to be back there because of flow and balance.
This is more of a hand gesture than an arm position issue.

I just thought changing the arm position would make it easier to change the hand. Problem solved with the new one, in my opinion! The hand looks 100% better!

Yeah the fur does indeed not have the same length at all places.
Less on the front more on the back.

Yeah, I was just pointing it out. Showing a chick's girly parts in spite of fur seems pretty much the norm for furry art.

[Facet]

Sweet scene, lycanthrope noir should definitely be more of a thing and there are not enough buxom werewolves in this world.

I changed up the thoughly unimaginative background and used it to focus attention on the lovely Ms.Wolf as well posited some more natural and predatory looking arm positions (I couldn't see how the current position was lending any significant line of action), lengthened her muzzle and sorted out some weird portions of the trenchcoat guy.

Mega serious anatomy crit; wolves have like 6 pairs of nipples. Make it happen.

[jams0988]

Mega serious anatomy crit; wolves have like 6 pairs of nipples. Make it happen. lol

lol, I was thinking the same thing, but then the boring part of my brain said "but people only have two."
Maybe four nipples would be the correct number? = \