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GR#050 - I am Legion

on: May 08, 2011, 02:51:38 am


tall format (might making zooming easier) or maybe:



still got some clean up to do, crits would be cool

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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #1 on: May 08, 2011, 03:31:55 am
Love it! Great everything. Seems like a classic not meant to be altered.

Font is the real bugger. Too high contrast; use a darker color. Like the dropcaps, though.

Who wrote this?


Cure, a bong!? There goes the children's book vibe!


*EDIT - the title. I know it's a Biblical reference to a man possessed by multiple demons at the same time, and I understand the connection, but that account from the Bible isn't exactly pretty. Demon possession, etc. I dunno, something more light-hearted would be nice. 'I Am Legion' purports to be a little too serious.
What is the intended implementation/destiny for this piece, if any? Not sure whether the block or vertical strip is best. I prefer the strip. It spares you the temptation to look ahead compulsively and spoil the next panel before you're ready for it.
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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 03:43:10 am
I know its petty of me to ask why the refrigerator doors open in different directions and to ask for a little lighting on the little cacti, since you did it on the other cactus, but I have to, everything else is too perfect here, your art is rather inspiring.  :)

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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #3 on: May 08, 2011, 04:12:39 am
good points:


There are a couple different biblical references to possession. Legion- the man who was possessed with many demons, is one. Mostly it's the second of these verses:

Matthew 12: 28-30 I
If I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the Kingdom of God has come unto you. How can one break into a strong man’s house and take his property, unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can plunder the house. He who is not with me is against me, he who doesn’t gather with me, scatters.
And Matthew 12: 43-45
When an unclean spirit leaves a man, it wanders through the desert looking for rest, and finding none. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house from whence I came’, and when it comes, it find it unoccupied and swept clean. Then he returns with seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and dwell there, and the person is worse off than before.

I guess the title does sound a little dire, might change it. no intended implementation for this piece. strip also works best for pj's zoom system, so I'll probably go with that format.
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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #4 on: May 08, 2011, 04:18:19 am
This is my favorite piece of yours. The colors are fantastic! - they remind me of the NES palette.

I agree with Ovyx, the cactus jumps out as "unfinished."

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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #5 on: May 08, 2011, 05:30:50 am
This is very nice, the poem/story is also interesting, I'm reminded of Dr. Seuss.

The fridge door opening the wrong way is quite odd, I suggest changing that.

I don't think the cactus is that bad, as it follows the same cartoony trend as the other objects in the strip.

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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #6 on: May 08, 2011, 05:50:07 am
     Actually, what I meant when I was talking about the fridge is that the doors open in 2 different directions, based on handle position, this is usually not found in fridgerators, as it would be inconvenient. You were right to flip it to the other side, but you also should move the upper door's handle to the right now, and it would be more logical.
I suggested a just a little bit on the cacti just to make them less 2D, they looked kinda flat, I know it is a good idea to give background objects less detail, but the cylinder forms are just a bit hard to discern, IMO.
I love the AA and the texture transition to darkness on schemers wall.

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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #7 on: May 08, 2011, 05:57:16 am
Yeah, I understand you now. updated the last update, don't want to post too many edits and have this page get too long.

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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #8 on: May 08, 2011, 06:02:21 am
So you wrote it then? You're apparently a bit of a poet, judging from the last couple things you've shared. I like it.

Ah, see I don't remember reading those scriptures before. So you're weaving in some extra meaning there, almost basing your "plot" on the ideas found in those verses. Pretty cool. I've always found the Bible very inspiring, too.

Love your low-res pixelling.

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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #9 on: May 08, 2011, 06:24:27 am
thanks. I'm trying to write more, and get my writing and visual art to work together.

I guess I'm trying to reinterpret the verses. The idea that what's being discussed is actually demonic creatures that live inside of you is silly, so if I'm gonna get anything out of the verses about possession, I'll have to interpret them differently than I learned in sunday school.
It seems much more sensible to me that the demons are our habitual thought patterns, namely the useless or destructive ones- the voices in our head during an inner monologue, and not a lieutenant of the dark lord. if we maintain attentiveness, then these mental habits can't break in and take over our thinking (tie up the strong man). But these 'demons' scatter before the light of conscious attentiveness. If we slack off in staying alert, then the mental habits will continue unchecked, and so multiply (come back with 7 more demons).

The specific demons mentioned were just the general type of side-tracking thought patterns I observe most often in myself.

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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #10 on: May 08, 2011, 07:57:34 am
Very cool. I like the message you're communicating a lot, especially the bit about attentiveness, tho I have to admit that one went by me until you pointed it out :P

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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #11 on: May 08, 2011, 12:58:26 pm
Cure, the pixelling is very nice. I don't have too much critique on that front.

I would cut the pieces into panels, however, not just black limbospace.

I wanted to ask, are you a christian then?

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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #12 on: May 08, 2011, 06:42:42 pm
@Helm:
1. The original idea was that they'd be pages in a book, so panels is probably best. I'll try that out.
2. Depends on how you define christian I guess. Probably not. I think Jesus had his head on straight, the gospel writers didn't quite get it (and had their own political motives), and most modern adaptations of his ideas are pretty confused (excepting the contemplatives- Keating, Merton, John of the Cross, et al). The center of his philosophy was the "kingdom of god" he only alluded to in parables- heaven/hell/judgment/only-begotten-savior-son-of-god came from other (Jewish and Hellenistic) sources.

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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #13 on: May 09, 2011, 08:26:30 am
instantly better to read for me.

The reason I ask about Christianity is because I get a strong vibe of "ex-quasi-Christian trying to make his worldview cohere with outside data" from this, if you catch my meaning. I do appreciate your intent with it nonetheless, and there is a risk involved that is hard not to respect. It's just that... Christian symbolism is spent to such an extent for me... I'd like to see even more personal work from you.

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Re: I Am Legion

Reply #14 on: May 09, 2011, 10:30:30 am
Off-topic:
I'm cool with Christian symbolism when it's used as a means to communicate a message detached from the question of belief. In cases where the ultimate goal is to tailor religious teachings to contemporary audiences in order to convert them, and the medium used; pixel art, music or whatever is reduced to a vehicle for reaching them then hmmm... I get a bit apprehensive. I never felt that was the intention with this piece though. Just my personal opinion thrown into the mix.
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